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    Quote Originally Posted by massimo1167 View Post
    if I were you I would avoid making certain statements, perhaps in a not too far future you may regret it ...:sifone:
    as much as we all would like to believe this....
    they even by phone denny stuff ..or don't want to talk about it..pff
    mail...skype...you name it.

    I like azbox very much. But Opensat is the worst company/p.r/ respect your client ever!


    But i do believe certain users..and they said they were working in something....so.. I dunno. I just don't care now.
    I want enigma2. Best tv mode, and now full codec support. I don't care about anything else.
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    Are those that are impatient for E2 development, also giving the same grief to Opensat development team.??? When was the last time you saw an update from them.????

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    i agree, the Opensat equal cheet. Long Live to The_ripper

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulobr View Post
    i agree, the Opensat equal cheet. Long Live to The_ripper
    You know what is a RESPECT?
    I hope yes
    So don't talk like that next time ,respect the people who are working hard please.
    Opensat,The Ripper are in the same boat the only think that we can do is to thank them

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfmls View Post
    as much as we all would like to believe this....
    they even by phone denny stuff ..or don't want to talk about it..pff
    mail...skype...you name it.

    I like azbox very much. But Opensat is the worst company/p.r/ respect your client ever!


    But i do believe certain users..and they said they were working in something....so.. I dunno. I just don't care now.
    I want enigma2. Best tv mode, and now full codec support. I don't care about anything else.
    In the past I have criticized heavily Opensat and his collaborators.
    For several months it seems that apparently there are no signs of life by Opensat, but often things are never as they seem, can not always see black or white, but we must try to read the nuances.

    I got an idea, maybe it's wrong, but a series of coincidences make me believe it's the right one...
    However, it does not matter, the important thing is to use our Azbox in the best way, with a software that can exploit the potential of the hardware.

    Thanks The_Ripper and all the members of his team (???).

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    Quote Originally Posted by massimo1167 View Post
    In the past I have criticized heavily Opensat and his collaborators.
    For several months it seems that apparently there are no signs of life by Opensat, but often things are never as they seem, can not always see black or white, but we must try to read the nuances.

    I got an idea, maybe it's wrong, but a series of coincidences make me believe it's the right one...
    However, it does not matter, the important thing is to use our Azbox in the best way, with a software that can exploit the potential of the hardware.

    Thanks The_Ripper and all the members of his team (???).

    Are you implying the timing of halt of new firmware releases from Opensat and simultaneously rapid development of E2 for Azbox are related?

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    I just do not like this false morality. Everyone here is hoping and supporting the ripper. Now when someone says something, someone always has to throw stones criticizing the question.
    Respect is good and everybody likes it. It costs nothing to be polite and kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravatasufoca View Post
    I just do not like this false morality. Everyone here is hoping and supporting the ripper. Now when someone says something, someone always has to throw stones criticizing the question.
    Respect is good and everybody likes it. It costs nothing to be polite and kind.
    If Ripper was selling his work then all the stupid questions and all the critisism would be fair. But he's not. He is creating something for free and for the love of creation. So in this case you don't put any preasure on his shoulders and you let him work.
    If you have to critisise someone, I think all roads lead to Portugal... (not hfmls of course ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by britzolas View Post
    If Ripper was selling his work then all the stupid questions and all the critisism would be fair. But he's not. He is creating something for free and for the love of creation. So in this case you don't put any preasure on his shoulders and you let him work.
    If you have to critisise someone, I think all roads lead to Portugal... (not hfmls of course ).

    all are welcome to Portugal. with money in their pockets to spend .. :respect-057: so they can leave work calmly Ripper

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    Don't be rude for the people of Portugal they don't deserve that...please
    Regards

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    This threat is going far away from the start topic.
    Come people lets stick to the topic and share/talk about
    E2 on AZbox !
    Stop criticizing people in particular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulobr View Post
    Don't be rude for the people of Portugal they don't deserve that...please
    Regards
    I thought you'd get my point but obviously you didn't. Maybe my writing was wrong.
    I didn't mean the Portugese people or the country itself. I meant Opensat that houses in Portugal but it could be anywere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azbox4ever View Post
    You know what is a RESPECT?
    I hope yes
    So don't talk like that next time ,respect the people who are working hard please.
    Opensat,The Ripper are in the same boat the only think that we can do is to thank them
    Humm
    Really????
    What about I cannot record well since I bought the azbox?
    What about all the other bugs that were never fixed by opensat?
    Do we not deserve respect as a consumer?
    We worked hard for our money,and opensat only care THEY are working hard?
    I have to rant against your post sir,this is an E2 thread,created SPECIALLY because opensat DID NOTHING to fix the box in all this time,and you come here asking for respect?
    E2 in azbox STARTED IN THE HOPE THIS BOX IS WORTH SOMETHING,otherwise people would just throw it in the garbage.
    I have never seen in my life such a company like opensat where they release in the market a receiver that do half of what is advertised for,and such company have the balls to ask for respect of their HARD work?
    What hard work?
    Have done NOTHING in 1+ years,sir,what hard work you are referring too?
    Plus,it looks like The Ripper is building drivers from scratch,so how is it opensat and the ripper are in the same boat?
    The guy is doing everything WITHOUR YOUR HELP !!!
    You mean the same boat to the fact that The ripper and you are working in a box that has no future?
    What is "the same boat" for you?
    Is not really clear.

    Not sure you realize the fact people porting E2 for azbox is a slap on opensat's face,it show in itself no respect at all??
    YOU CAN NOT ASK FOR RESPECT NOW !!!!!
    TOO LATE !!!!
    Last edited by kebien; 11-11-2010 at 05:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebien View Post
    Humm
    Really????
    What about I cannot record well since I bought the azbox?
    What about all the other bugs that were never fixed by opensat?
    Do we not deserve respect as a consumer?
    We worked hard for our money,and opensat only care THEY are working hard?
    I have to rant against your post sir,this is an E2 thread,created SPECIALLY because opensat DID NOTHING to fix the box in all this time,and you come here asking for respect?
    E2 in azbox STARTED IN THE HOPE THIS BOX IS WORTH SOMETHING,otherwise people would just throw it in the garbage.
    I have never seen in my life such a company like opensat where they release in the market a receiver that do half of what is advertised for,and such company have the balls to ask for respect of their HARD work?
    What hard work?
    Have done NOTHING in 1+ years,sir,what hard work you are referring too?
    Plus,it looks like The Ripper is building drivers from scratch,so how is it opensat and the ripper are in the same boat?
    The guy is doing everything WITHOUR YOUR HELP !!!
    You mean the same boat to the fact that The ripper and you are working in a box that has no future?
    What is "the same boat" for you?
    Is not really clear.

    Not sure you realize the fact people porting E2 for azbox is a slap on opensat's face,it show in itself no respect at all??
    YOU CAN NOT ASK FOR RESPECT NOW !!!!!
    TOO LATE !!!!
    I would like to hit the thanks button multiple times... :respect-062:

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebien View Post
    Humm
    Really????
    What about I cannot record well since I bought the azbox?
    What about all the other bugs that were never fixed by opensat?
    Do we not deserve respect as a consumer?
    We worked hard for our money,and opensat only care THEY are working hard?
    I have to rant against your post sir,this is an E2 thread,created SPECIALLY because opensat DID NOTHING to fix the box in all this time,and you come here asking for respect?
    E2 in azbox STARTED IN THE HOPE THIS BOX IS WORTH SOMETHING,otherwise people would just throw it in the garbage.
    I have never seen in my life such a company like opensat where they release in the market a receiver that do half of what is advertised for,and such company have the balls to ask for respect of their HARD work?
    What hard work?
    Have done NOTHING in 1+ years,sir,what hard work you are referring too?
    Plus,it looks like The Ripper is building drivers from scratch,so how is it opensat and the ripper are in the same boat?
    The guy is doing everything WITHOUR YOUR HELP !!!
    You mean the same boat to the fact that The ripper and you are working in a box that has no future?
    What is "the same boat" for you?
    Is not really clear.

    Not sure you realize the fact people porting E2 for azbox is a slap on opensat's face,it show in itself no respect at all??
    YOU CAN NOT ASK FOR RESPECT NOW !!!!!
    TOO LATE !!!!
    As have already being said, OpenSat is working on a new firmware, they are not giving up on azbox, on the contrary.

    OpenSat could not fix any more the official firmware made by Celrun, because it was unfixable, it was bad coded, they could not improve something without breaking another.
    Because instead of a typical code divided in procedures/functions, they (celrun) used pointers to point to other code stack, obviously when the code changes, so does the addresses where the pointer points and that causes thing to stop working.
    I don't know when this new firmware will come out, probably when its ready.

    So yes, you can also say that they use this E2 firmware attention from their costumers, so they can focus 100% on the new firmware and not in the celrun's firmware.
    Also, if you guys think that E2 was possible in this short time without the help of OpenSat, you guys are dead wrong.
    That "geeko" message in the VFD is not a coincidence, it was the main coder from OpenSat that did it, so yes they are indirectly involved in this E2 firmware.
    There is also many more private information that I do know and won't reveal.

    All I'm trying to say is that OpenSat is not a bad company as many think, although nothing will repair the fact that Elite and Premium are not twin tuners capable (celrun's fault), and OpenSat should accept that fault and do a refund to its costumers or a trading program for a Premium+ (for a fair amount).

    Cheers!

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    FME_FTA - nice reply.
    I am looking forward to lot's of new stable images from all the developers. I enjoy playing with the box. It has a lot of potential.
    Maybe we can have something for Christmas. That would be very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FME_fta View Post
    All I'm trying to say is that OpenSat is not a bad company as many think, although nothing will repair the fact that Elite and Premium are not twin tuners capable (celrun's fault), and OpenSat should accept that fault and do a refund to its costumers or a trading program for a Premium+ (for a fair amount).

    Cheers!
    time will show

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    FME_fta with all respect. They are not a good company.
    I can understand (IF) they really have anything to do with enigma2 that they don't want to talk about it.

    But if they are working in a new firmware from scratch, why don't they let us see how it goes? Why don't they tell us, we are doing this and that.
    HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR US CLIENTS!
    Why da hell can't they be more understanding that we just wanna see some progress?
    It's simple, or they really suck as a company and don't have a single clue how to "sell" their product/firmware.
    Or
    they aren't working at all in a new firmware.
    You can chose one option...if they really are working in a new firmware. Why can't we know that? Why can't we see something for the first time directly from opensat ??
    example: Here are some samples, screenshots of our current work..
    or "Yes we're doing this and that". Give us a couple of months... It's as simple as that.
    They simply couldn't care less about us costumers, it's a disrespectful and a shameless company. Show your face Opensat, we users don't have any fault if your previous celrun and korean stuff sucked! Face the consequences and admit, it was a bad decision from the start, and let us know what da hell are you doing now. Or do you get money from silence? If i remember correctly u get money from us to fool around, have some dignity and at least tell us what r u doing, if ....anything at all. U can't hide your ass behind enigma2 stuff forever. Or..yes u can, like u are doing right now, the coward and easy way.
    Or the afraid of failure again with that "supposed new firmware" is so big that u don't even trust yourselves now?
    Either way, even if u fail to deliver, have the balls to do the decent thing to tell us, ey...we tried!
    Last edited by hfmls; 11-11-2010 at 01:24 PM.

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    @FME_fta
    OpenSat could not fix any more the official firmware made by Celrun, because it was unfixable, it was bad coded, they could not improve something without breaking another.
    Because instead of a typical code divided in procedures/functions, they (celrun) used pointers to point to other code stack, obviously when the code changes, so does the addresses where the pointer points and that causes thing to stop working.
    I don't know when this new firmware will come out, probably when its ready.
    I totally agree on this.
    So yes, you can also say that they use this E2 firmware attention from their costumers, so they can focus 100% on the new firmware and not in the celrun's firmware.
    Also, if you guys think that E2 was possible in this short time without the help of OpenSat, you guys are dead wrong.
    That "geeko" message in the VFD is not a coincidence, it was the main coder from OpenSat that did it, so yes they are indirectly involved in this E2 firmware.
    There is also many more private information that I do know and won't reveal.
    Hmmmm

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