Nearly there !!

[Tombat]

Thank you Mickha :respect-037:

[echelon]

just do as I said and enter 0029 in the longitude box

then go to where you choose west or east and choose west

this is because you are at 2.9 west , which is probably on the west coast of england or ireland , so its west of the greenwich mean line through london (which is zero)

it is entered in a different manner on different boxes

so in this case its ensuring it is entered correctly for your spiderbox , which requires digits in the longitude box and has a separate box for west or east

when completed , go back into this menu and check its says 2.9 west , or 02.9 west , or whatever , just to ensure the right number of digits has been put in that longitude box

[Tombat]

Success !!!!!! :respect-013: I did again what I have done over and over but this time I set the LNB to 9750/10660 and the green and blue indicators shot into life simple but not to me.
So, A big thank you to Echelon and all who helped me with my problems. . . To take time out and help a fumbler like me takes a good heart and I respect and thank you all for your help!