ok I tried to load a channel list.. enigma2 Vhannibal for 13E, but nothing changed.. I don't know why this difference between us. I'll try to re-download driver..
ok I tried to load a channel list.. enigma2 Vhannibal for 13E, but nothing changed.. I don't know why this difference between us. I'll try to re-download driver..
Well,is not about to be a policeman,is about understanding where your place is.
Most people is tired of the hype from dealers,now we have to take it from users?
Please don't.
Even i can say the DM800 is a inferior box compared to Azbox.
I hated my Dm800, it was slow and sluggish after being on 30 minutes due to overheating, the CPU can't handle E2 well and stutters when running thru the menus fast.
And this was a original box.
Don't compare ANY box to DM800, DM800 is reall **** to be honest and people buys that **** because it says DREAMBOX and they all think everything is well.
??? don't get this but I'am shure this is far off topic and it seems you feel fuc@#ed by your dealer.Originally Posted by kebien
Only advice find another one
The winner's score is equal to the sum of next three opponentslol
Is Premium Plus version coming soon?
thanks
@Likvid quite weird my dm800 handles all ok. It might be cause you have no CPU fan or bad designed skin. I cant say dm800 is worse or better than azbox. I have both of them and like both of them as well.
dm800 is 4 times smaller and always amazes people.
You don't get it because you are not following the thread,as simple as that.
Read again.
In my case I own 2 DM800 (plus a 7000 and a 7025) and also own 2 azbox elite
I sure can compare the two,and won't even mention it in this thread,but other people is talking insanely about DM800 shortcomings,the truth is,azbox NEVER worked at par of dreambox since I got them and countless posts in this section will tell you the same thing.
I didn't NEED to reboot the DM800 in over one year.I wore out the power button of the azbox's remote control already.
The proof is this thread is the HOPE that the box can work better using dreambox firmware than original firmware.
STOP TALKING ABOUT DM800,you know as little about E2 as before.
E2 never made a better unit off the Kathrein,did it?
The worst case is people talking about dvbapi and devices they know nothing about,and answering questions instead of developers.
Ok let's talk about dvbapi,what do you guys know about it?
Actually DVBAPI3 is the one E2 follows.
Can we talk about command set and implementation?
What can we talk about then?
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ok, maybe we are not all developers, but... if you would only publish news the better way would be a site not a forum, don't you think? it's clear if you write on a forum, that you have to accept also no0bies, comments, a little bit of ot, and everything that comes with it.. There is NO ONE if not a moderator that can tell someone else 'STOP talking about this' you can disagree with his words, but if you want to command just make your own site. I'm not disagreeing with your concept, but with your way to express it.. I also think we would talk about testing and not about hopes, but there are mods, let's them do their job..
Yes you are right, i had both IPBOX9000 and Kathrein and they both run E2, problem is that they all run some half baked drivers that makes the image quality suffer, tuner problems etc etc....
Even if you get E2 running on AZ it will never be as good due to not having access to the right drivers that need to be implemented, it will be another IPBOX or kahtrein, but that's it.
Thats crap!!
Just look @ used procs there's the difference!!
Azbox is mips, all the others are st7xxxx
Carp95 is right.
how can u say azbox will be like kathrein and ipbox !?
that's just ignorance.
you all should know by now azbox is mips and it will have (first box) full codec support in enigma2 too.
azbox will act like a dreambox clone in every expect, since it runs all mips bins.
oscam,cccam,mgcamd,mbox etc etc.
kathrein or ipbox will never get where azbox can get because of sh4 processors, and kind of bad drivers..
ps: so if i post too much? i'm not breaking any rule or insulting anyone, in fact all i do is try to help.
if u feel annoyed by the amount of my posts, please sir, don't read them.
not quite m8 _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreambox
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He means IPBOX9000 and Kathrein
500HD,7025,800HD and 8000 have mips
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hfmls is right about one thing, that you cannot know how good it is going to perform untill you see it. There are a lot of aspects that you should take into account, such as the hardware, good coding.
For example one bad thing is that the Azbox cpu has to handle more tasks instead of having a dedicated chip handling them, thats why I am talking about hardware limitations. These limitation might still exist at the final release unless you come up with some clever coding making these limitations less noticeable.
On the other hand saying that cccam will run faster or with more c lines is also ignorant, because cccam is a piece of software and the max number of c lines you are able to run is something known only by the author. The number of c lines you have, does put some stress on the cpu, but i cannot tell you how much that is. I am sure that for normal use no-one will have any problems.
nop, i already tested many times cccam server in original firmware, also in enigma2 release.
acting as cccam server handles more cline than dm800. that's a fact.
original firmware or enigma2 The_Ripper's release.
But that's not newsflash :S
many owners know dm800 limitation to act as server.
Good thing that E2 is coded with the offical SDK then...
Just because you say it doesnt make it a fact. Wait for the full E2 and not the test version you are using right now and then come back with your comparisons.
Also are you talking about f-lines, c-lines, both? Am i missing something about f-lines on the azbox? You say that every one knows about the dm800 c-line limitations, can you tell us what that number is because i have never seen an actual number? Is this related to the cpu or memory not beeing able to handle more c-lines or something else? If it is the memory then how much memory is needed?
If you know the answer then this makes your point of view a fact. I am pretty sure that you don't know the answer and neither do I.
maybe I missunderstand... you mean that cccam is already in The_ripper release of e2? If this is a stupid question I'm sorry, I thought cccam was a program by itself, not a part of DM firmware others extruded...
Well SDK for STi is already out for the new ipbox9900 that runs E2 so that is not the problem.
Doesn't say a thing about how good it will be or not, only the future will.
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