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    find that elusive sat

    HOW TO FIND THAT ELUSIVE SAT.

    we will use 10E as an example.

    1,
    load the latest channel settings file.

    2,
    choose a channel on the target sat(10E) by pressing OK then press yellow or yellow yellow so that you end up in the left hand panel
    scroll to the target sat,(10E) press OK, this lands you on the first channel in the main panel,in this case with settings of 18/07/05 1475 eutw1 10e,to be safe scroll to the channel 1477 arm 1, press OK to choose this channel,exit.(the reason for this is some channels are not being helpful for me in showing signal or the correct sat, but this one is)

    3,
    now one of two things will happen, either a banner saying moving to 10E will appear and your sat will dive off somewhere, or just the banner will appear and nothing will happen, fear not, this is what you do.

    4,
    press
    menu
    installation
    service searching
    manual search
    anttenna alternative will be blued, press OK.

    5,
    go to orbital position, and using left or right get into the sat list
    scroll down to the nearest sat that you have tuned in, in this case 7E, press OK
    the sat name will change to 7E.

    6,
    goto motor control,then using left/right choose goto, and press OK.

    7,
    go back to orbitalposition, repeat line 5, using the name of the target sat in this case 10E
    you will see the sat name change to 10E

    8,
    go to movement, noting while you do, that diseqc command mode is set to user.
    then, in this case as the target sat is to the east of the already stored one, press the left a series of times,

    this will depend on two of three things, 1,if its a diqesc mount, then it wll be about 5 times to 1deg

    2,if its a Vbox, it will be about 2 times to 1deg. 3, how many degs between known sat and target sat.


    so repeating,go to movement and then you press left and in this case, as its a diqesc mount, and 3deg, we need to press approx 15 times, you will need to wait a few seconds for the bottom blue line to come to life, some channels are a little slow locking up, once you have the bottom blue line, or if you do not, then try it a click at a time around the 15 point, and wait, and tune it in finally when you have the bottom line as good as you can,

    go to motor control and select store, press ok.

    exit,exit,exit,exit exit.
    you should now be seeing the channel you require

    hope this helps, just use this guide, and insert the sats that you have and the ones you require, where needed.

    voith

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    an example is to convert biss keys using

    with thanks to marco



    an example is to convert biss keys using
    HOT 9.3 or lower patches is
    say this is a Biss key

    1F 2C ED 4B A2 C4 5D 49

    Go to the first 8 digits then go back 2 places so it looks like

    1F 2C ED A2 C4 5D 49 so you have deleted 4B

    then delete the last 2 digits 49 so it looks like

    1F 2C ED A2 C4 5D

    then using your remote press ?

    the first thing is to read the serv-id we will say this is 28656
    the second thing to read is the pmtpid we will say this is 316
    the third thing to do is read the pcrpid we will say this is 3061

    Now we have our keys we need a dec to bin converter -http://www.*********.com/binary_converter/

    once the converter is loaded

    we will convert 28656 from bin to hex so it looks like 6FF0
    Now convert 316 from bin to hex so it loooks like 013C
    all we Need is the last 2 digits so it looks 3C
    Now we need the pcrpid convert 3061 so it loooks like 0BF5
    Again all we need is the last 2 digits
    so it looks like F5

    So this biss key we started out with
    1F 2C ED 4B A2 C4 5D 49

    it now should like 6FF0 3CF5 1F 2C ED A2 C4 5D

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    what is a pcmt table

    hi all,

    a member elsewhere ferreted this out and I thought it was so useful I will repost here


    The PMCTable(Row 1-140000 in the firmware) is used to set the PID for incoming ECM-Data(Entitlement Control Message) for the Provider Channel in order to Decrypt the Channel. A Service Channel might have more than one CA-ID(Viaccess, Irdeto…) with different Idents, so you may find more than one row for the same Channel.

    In addition, ToH firmware adds specific rows on PMCTable for their own use.

    It is not so simple as describe above; I will give an example to clear it more.

    PMCTable row contains:
    Ant ID: ID/Number of the Satellite position in your Channels List Settings.
    Service ID: Identification of the Service (Giving by the Provider)
    CA-ID: Identification of the Encryption system used by this Service
    ---0100 – Seca
    ---0500 – Viaccess
    ---06xx - Irdeto (xx Different Encryption Version of Irdeto)
    ---17xx – BetaCrypt (xx Different Encryption Version of Betacrypt)
    ---18xx - Nagra(xx Different Encryption Version of Nagra)
    ---0Dxx - Cryptoworks(xx same)
    ---0B00 – Conax
    ---…etc
    ECM: Identification of the Channel
    Ext/ID: Provider Identification
    To: Time Offset to correct time difference in channels.
    ---FFFD = -3.00
    ---FFFE = -2.00
    ---FFFF = -1.00
    ---0000 = 0:00
    ---0001 = +1.00
    ---0002 = +2.00
    ---0003 = +3.00
    Audio/Video ID: Identify the Audio and/or Video ID.
    ---A+VPID: Check both Audio & Video
    ---VPID – Only Video
    ---APID – Only Audio
    ---OFF – No check
    ---No PCR – PCR PID disabled
    Try: From where trying to decrypt the Channel.
    ---All – All below
    ---Emu – Emulation
    ---CRD – Card
    ---Net – Network

    Example for Multivision 3
    AntID---ServiceID---CAID---ECM---ExtID---To---AV/PID---Try
    ================================= ==============
    3----------1302------500------168----007C---0----A+VPID---All


    Thanks to CrazySat for his Help.

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    info on how to enter dcw keys by remote (THANKS MARCO)

    pretty much the same as entering biss keys in but
    dcw keys are made up of 32 digits

    we will say this is hbo comedy max tv

    DC 86 0B 43 CD FC 5A 23 25 34 38 97 64 44 E4 8D

    we delete every 8th digit like so

    DC 86 0B CD FC 5A 25 34 38 64 44 E4

    then look to see what frequency the channel is on we will say 12071
    then convert it form bin to hex like so 2F27

    then look at serv-id we will say its 168 convert it from bin to hex 00A8
    we just need the last two digits A8

    then look at pmt pid we will say it is 102 convert this from bin to hex 0066
    again we just need last two digits 66


    2F27A866

    Now take the the biss key we converted

    DC 86 0B CD FC 5A 25 34 38 64 44 E4

    every 12th digit press return like so



    DC 86 0B CD FC 5A
    25 34 38 64 44 E4

    then just add these digits in front of key like so


    2F27A866 DC 86 0B CD FC 5A

    2F27A866 25 34 38 64 44 E4


    NB:
    To get into BISS menu on Hummi:
    Menu TOH, Parser, Ram Editor, OK and then press P+ or P- to go to BISS

    NB2. The first letter D in this code above was given to me actually with one letter earlier in the alphabet, but changed it just in case I was not allowed to put in full key in this section.

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    moving one channel or more on screen

    posted by marco

    Moving more than 1 channel at the same time
    select a channel that you need to edit when you press menu then ToH then EPG go to settings here you have to press OK button, the channel will Highlight with Red color if you want to edit it you have to press the left arrow with remote control to get it in yellow color and now you can edit it so if you want to delete it press red button in remote, to move it press the green button after that you have to press OK and then stand-by button to confirm and save your work.

    1- Menu.
    2- ToH.
    3- EPG.
    4- Settings.
    5- OK.
    6- Left Arrow (Highlight in yellow).
    7- Red (delete) or Green (move) and OK Button.
    8- Stand-by (Save )

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    as posted by sat_rrstm

    Marco m8,allow me to describe here below the whole alternative way to the usual menu-one to move or delete channels on Hummy :

    one channel move procedure :
    1. tune Humax on the channel to be moved
    2. press 0 & EPG to get in the EPG menu (the channel line is white)
    3. press OK (the ch name turns red) & left arrow (the rest of the line turns yellow)
    4. scroll up or down with the arrows to go to the place you want to move the ch
    5. press green button (the ch has been moved to its new position)
    6. press Power button (new position saved,all menus gone and the ch is on TV screen)

    multi-channel move procedure :
    1. tune Humax on the first channel to be moved
    2. press 0 & EPG to get in the EPG menu (the channel line is white)
    3. press OK (the ch name turns red) & left arrow (the rest of the line turns yellow)
    4. scroll up or down with the arrows to the next ch to be moved and when you are there,press the left arrow (the line turns yellow)
    5. do the same with as many ch's as you want to move
    6. when finished,scroll up or down with the arrows to go to the place you want to move all these ch's
    7. press green button (the ch's have been moved to their new position)
    8. press Power button (new position saved,all menus gone and the first picked ch is on TV screen)

    one channel delete procedure :
    1. tune Humax on the channel to be deleted
    2. press 0 & EPG to get in the EPG menu (the channel line is white)
    3. press OK (the ch name turns red) & left arrow (the rest of the line turns yellow)
    4. press red button (the ch has been deleted,but its sound and picture are still present)
    5. press Power button to save (all menus gone and the ch is still on TV screen)
    6. scroll back to previous or front to next ch and you will not see the deleted ch again!

    multi channel delete procedure :
    1. tune Humax on the first channel to be deleted
    2. press 0 & EPG to get in the EPG menu (the channel line is white)
    3. press OK (the ch name turns red) & left arrow (the rest of the line turns yellow)
    4. scroll up or down with the arrows to the next ch to be deleted and when you are there,press the left arrow (the line turns yellow)
    5. do the same with as many ch's as you want to delete
    6. press red button (the ch's have been deleted,but the first ch's sound and picture are still present)
    7. press Power button to save (all menus gone and the first ch is still on TV screen)
    8. scroll back to previous or front to next ch and you will not see the deleted ch's again!

    All thanks to @Marco and @hawana,who helped me get it cleared!
    Last edited by voith driver; 07-12-2007 at 11:49 PM.

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    Here are a few tips that may help with updates and getting certain packages to clear.

    as posted by Alibe thanks m8.

    Here are a few tips that may help with updates and getting certain packages to clear.

    Can I skip one or more ToH versions when I do an update.
    Yes you can, if you load an update that is a FULL version of the ToH software. A full update will have a size of slightly over 1MB (1000 KB).

    A patch release is likely to be a lot smaller (probably approx 150KB, but size may vary). Under these cir***stances, you should ensure that your receiver has the latest full ToH that was released prior to the patch. The patch should then be loaded over the top of that full ToH.


    Do I have to load all the modules when I update to the latest ToH.
    If you are unsure then I would strongly recommend loading all the modules. This is the safest route to get a sucessful update.

    However, on many of updates a number of the modules will remain unchanged. This means that you may be over-writing existing software with identical software. There is no problem with this - your update will just take longer.
    Example
    Comparison of ToH3.4_HoT10.4 to ToH3.4_HoT10.6b

    Firmware Module - Updated from ToH3.4_HoT10.1 to ToH3.4_HoT10.6b - changed
    PMCT Module - Updated from ToH3.4_HoT10.4 to ToH3.4_HoT10.5 - changed
    Macro Table - HIC-10500+ CAM_ToH30 in both versions - no change
    EPG Module - ToH3.3_HoT5.9 in both versions - no change
    Catone Module - CAToneV33 in both versions - no change
    TTT(Emu) Module - Updated from ToH3.4_HoT10.4 to ToH3.4_HoT10.6b - changed
    Language Module - ToH3.4Beta v01 in both versions - no change
    It is therefore possible to do a sucessful update from 10.4 to 10.6 by just using the changed modules. In HDFSmart or HTT Turbo Suite, this would be done by just having the identified modules "ticked" before you begin the update.

    PMC Tables.
    Unlike Grumpyy, I believe that third party PMC Tables are often better than those included within (or with) the ToH software. If you chose a reliable creator like Xamuh, you shouldn't go far wrong and your Table is likely to be more up to date.

    Do I need to keep updating my PMC Table.

    No. Primarily, your PMC Table is designed to select the optimum form of encryption / decryption to be used for each particular channel. If the channels you watch are decrypting, why bother with an update.

    Why would I want to update my PMC Table after moving to ToH3.4_HoT10.6

    Earlier PMC Tables have had *** View and FreeX channels defaulting to Viaccess encryption / decryption. With the cracking of Irdeto2, the PMC Table needed to be altered to take advantage of the new Irdeto provisions within HoT10.6

    I can only decrypt TPS channels intermittently.

    The two main reasons for this are:

    1. The CAID Preselect is incorrectly set in the Config Menu.
    Do NOT set the CAID Preselect to Card + S + Emu. On this setting your receiver will try and find a key from the Internet (S) in preference to the Emulator (Emu). The cycle to default back to the Emulator may then take too long for the receiver to continally decrypt sucessfully.
    Set the CAID Preselect to Card + Emu. This will give the fastest response from your receiver.

    2. The AES keys have not been loaded into the receiver using the France 4/5 channels to run the auto-update procedure. If the AES keys are not loaded, you are likely to experience 15 minutes (approx) of black screen followed by 1 minute (approx) of viewable picture. This occurs because the AES key feature is switched off every 15 minutes to allow for the next AES key to be activated. During the 1 minute window the TPS channels revert to using just Viaccess 1 encryption and the picture becomes viewable.

    Do I need to have a special time setting in my receiver.

    No you don't. With the current software TPS should work with any time setting (e.g. GMT +1, +2, +3, -1, -2, -3, etc)

    I still cannot decrypt TPS

    1. If you are using HDFSmart or HTT Humax Turbo Suite, ensure that the file "firmwaredatabase.xml" ON YOUR COMPUTER is updated to the latest version before attempting a TOH update. The latest version (included in the same zip file as the ToH) is dated 19 Mar 2008. If Windows Explorer shows a file with an earlier date, look for an update.
    2. Check that your ToH is up-to-date (Menu / ToH / HoT).
    3. Switch to a free-to-air channel (e.g. Multivision Preview) and check that you can see a picture. If you cannot, your Antenna settings may be wrong in your Channel Set-up. Not all channel sets use the same order for the Antenna numbering. The Antenna numbers for Astra and Hotbird may need reversing.
    4. Check to see whether any keys are present in the Ram Editor for Viaccess Provider 007C00. Keys may sometimes be erased during a Channel Set update.
    5. Check that CAID Preselect is set to Card + Emu.
    6. Check that any third party CAM is removed from the Common Interface slots. AES key updates may not occur if such a Cam is left in place.
    7. Ensure that your programmed Funcard, Goldcard, Silvercard (or similar) is inserted the correct way up in your in-built Irdeto Cam.
    8. Check that your Channel Set has the correct frequencies etc. for your chosen channels.

    I cannot decrypt any of the Premiere channels

    1. Ensure your ToH is up to date
    2. Switch to a free-to-air Premiere channel (e.g. Premiere Direkt Portal) and check that you can see a picture. If you cannot, your Antenna settings may be wrong in your Channel Set-up. Not all channel sets use the same order for the Antenna numbering. The Antenna numbers for Astra and Hotbird may need reversing.
    3. Switch to an encrypted channel such as Premiere 1 and then press the Red Button on your remote. You should see a letter "N" in the the little square near the bottom of your screen. If you see another letter (such as "B") try updating your PMC Table to a newer version.
    4. Check as to whether the keys in the Ram Editor for Provider 0501 are up-to-date. If not, you can manually update them or try using the Nagra auto-update feature in the "Config" menu. Set this to "On" and leave the receiver on an encrypted channel such as Premiere1. Switch it back to "Off" after use.
    5. Check that you CAID Preselect in the "Config" menu is set to Card + Emu
    6. If you load a new key file, check in the Ram Editor that the new keys are actually present. Failure to update keys can occur.
    Last edited by voith driver; 21-03-2008 at 04:33 PM.

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