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    Why are your longitude settings so different?
    From dispointer you have the longitude as 1.48 West but you have set your receiver at 2.99 West.

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    you do not set the dish elevation on your box

    you set it on the dish mounting plate, with a spanner in hand and checking the markings on the dish and mount

    your longitude should be set to 001.480
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    Latitude = 053.428
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    so its

    Configuration Mode = simple
    Mode = Positioner
    Longitude = 001.480
    West
    Latitude = 053.428
    North

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    ps , in your previous thread you mentioned Liverpool

    longitude 1.48 west is not correct for Liverpool

    _https://latitudelongitude.org/gb/liverpool/

    so its

    Configuration Mode = simple
    Mode = Positioner
    Longitude = 002.991
    West
    Latitude = 053.428
    North

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    Read this thread with interest and once you see trees then its ??? The OP is a relative novice so I would have suggested go to 0.8west and check signal strength on 2 channels V and H. If these are good ie up in the 90's then rig is OK. When sent to 28 east I would look at dish and the sky dish and see if dish is actually pointing at 28e. And pick a good channel like BBC. We dont know yet if pole is 100% vertical and when rig is sent to 0.8w is it dead straight, ie the three red dots on you tube.

    This is the link and 3 red dots is at 5.11

    xxxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k_yhxmGlEA

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    I agree, he could set it up on 0.8 west on a fta channel, which I usually do , then check 28e (bbc and itv etc) and 39e and 42e fta channels for example , then try 13e and 19e and 23.5e , plus 30w

    but from the pictures I saw the dish elevation mount bracket was upside down, fitted by another person, so I thought this was why its not tracking the arc correctly, which is what I still believe and I have told him in his new thread about it , he is in Liverpool so his longitude and latitude settings appear to be what I gave him months ago, so I do not believe its his box, so we are back to dish and motor alignment once more

    so groundhog day

    he did post a thread asking for a satellite engineer to call , no replies

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    cant get 28e or 30w

    I have my dish set up using usals and get the following sats: 0.8w, 9e, 13e, 16e, 19.2, 23e all with decent signal . but I cant get a signal on 28e or 30w I could at one point previously get 28e and hispasat if I remember rightly I had to manually fine tune 30w but tried this and still cant find it. I set it up by going to 0.8w getting a signal on al jazzera english and peaking the signal then tried my other sats but cant seem to get 28e. I know at one point I couldn't get 23e because there where some branches blocking it but I recently found I could get signal but then i was losing thor I have sorted this and receive the above satellites. I have my motor lattitude set to 54 my elevation set to 35 and my dish elevation to 39. I just don't understand why I cant get 28e as I could tweak dish and get signal on 28e but now cant get any signal on 28e. surely it cant be that far from 23e to not get any signal I know when the dish points at 28e it faces a house but I think it is far enough away to go over the house. any help much appreciated if anyone needs more info or if You need me to take a specific picture thats no problem. thanks in advance

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    First you need to check if you have anything blocking your signal, you can use dishpointer.com, to check this.
    Type in your postcode, select 28.2E, from the drop down signal box, zoom in on the map, to find your house, and move the green icon to where your dish is located.
    Click the show obstacle option and move the red icon to anything possibly blocking the signal.
    It will then provide a d, distance, and h, height reading, which means that the obstruction would need to be this high, to block the satellites signal.

    If you can't get the furthest East, or furthest West, satellites, then your dish probably isn't tracking the satellite arc correctly, and you need to move your dish back to 0.8W, using your receiver, then make small adjustments, to the brackets, maximise your signal, on 0.8W, then try 28.2E, and 30W, again, keep doing this until you manage to track the satellite arc.
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    It's a rainy day here so sat down and did a list of Free To Air channels -- there are some gaps as I only have a SD receiver.
    31 w --- 12092 v 27500 TBN Espana
    15 w --- 12609 h 7.552 ESPN 902 Syndication (with BISS key)
    1 w --- 12418 v 28000 Sky News
    5 e --- 12399 v 27500 Inter
    7 e --- 11221 h 27500 Iran International
    10 e --- 11919 v 27500 Holy God TV
    13 e --- 11034 v 27500 RTR
    16 e --- 11345 h 30000 KCN
    19 e --- 12226 h 27500 Eurosport
    28 e --- 12207 v 27500 Sky News

    That should help you set up your dish .

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    I wonder if he ever did manage to get 28.2e ?
    I feel like going up there to help him, so frustrating reading through this.

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    A friend had a simlar problem where he lost 31w .
    His dish was on a chimney stack and when he went from 15w to 31w, with me watching the dish, nothing happened -- it didn't move but switched to the 31w channel list which he could not receive of course.
    It's a while ago but we had to manually set up 31w and save it to memory. A mystery why it forgot 31w.
    It was a Technomate receiver with the screen message that the dish was moving.
    I have a similar receiver but with a V box which counts so know something is happening to the dish.
    Maybe this is what has happened but if fozzer12 doesn't come back ,we'll never know.

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    hi all still cant get 28e when i have usals set up i get 0.8w,9e,13e,16e,19e but cant get 23e or 28e, i have longitude to 54 and elevation to 35 my dish elevations on dish pointer says 29 for 0.8w but when i try and set it to that I don't get a signal could this be down to the position on the mounting pole itself any help much appreciated thanks

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    Given your location, and dish size, 28.5E, and 23.5E, should be easy, so it must be that your dish isn't tracking the satellite arc. How are your West satellites? Can you get 30W?
    You need to follow the basic rules:
    1. Ensure your pole is plumb, and strong enough to hold the dish/motor.
    2. Find your true south, using an app, or site like dishpointer.com.
    3. If using a Usals motor, set everything to 0, dish, motor and LNB. Enter your latitude, and longitude, remembering negative longitude readings = west. Then send your dish/motor, using your receiver, to a suitable satellite, like 1W.
    4. Manually move your dish to 1W, then adjust the brackets, to get the strongest signal, on 1W.
    5. Gently tighten your dish, so it doesn't move to much, then send the dish, using your receiver, to your furthest available Eastern satellite, like 42E, make a note of the signal quality readings, then send it to the furthest Westerly satellite, like 30W, and note the signal quality readings.
    6. Send the dish back to 1W, then make minor adjustments, to both brackets, dish, and motor, maximise the signal quality, on 1W, then send to 42E, and 30W, and see if the signal quality improves.
    7. Keep doing this, sending it to 1W, making minor adjustments, and checking 42E and 30W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fozzer12 View Post
    it maybe be upside down you would have a better idea than me I did not set the dish up but it did work correctly regardless of the mount being upside down
    I still believe the dish mounting bracket is upside down !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by echelon View Post
    I still believe the dish mounting bracket is upside down !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    My dish is set up same as yours, I also believe bracket is upside down.
    Last edited by manic01; 04-11-2020 at 10:58 AM.

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    hi all turned dish mounting bracket round and tried setting dish elevation but cant get a signal on 0.8w any help much appreciated thanks
    Last edited by fozzer12; 05-11-2020 at 07:31 PM.

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    hi turned bracket round but not sure I have put dish on right now its back in the groove but not picking anything up not sure if I have put it on righ need to reset motor as I cant find sats, i tried change to lattitude to 53 lattitude and 36 elevation and have dish elevation to 29,30 which is what I am getting on dish pointer but cant get any signal on thor not sure what to do now any help much appreciated. tried moving to 0 and making sure lnb with wire pointing down

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    Can you please post some pictures.
    Where is your general location?

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    liverpoolIMG_20201105_204033.jpg

    I dont think I have put it on right never put a dish up and really struggled getting it on

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    looks like your dish is as far east as it will go,move the dish to the middle position 0 deg then try to find thor,dish up/down etc and side side about 1 deg until you find a signal then report back

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    I am not sure what to set the dish elevation to

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