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    re-aligning motorized dish

    Hi I can no longer get 28 east and 23 east. My dish must have been misaligned by the weather. I need help re aligning the dish. I am a novice when it comes to satellites. I am from liverpool. it is a 1m dish I have a vu+ zero box. any help much appreciated thanks in advance20190807_204416(0).jpg

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    WoW !! That bracket is really rusted to hell ..lol's !!
    Anyways i would say its not the main issue because your Motor bracket looks set @ Latitude 54 Elevation 35 which is correct ,
    looks like a Technomate Motor in the picture ? 2300 H-H Disecq ?
    prob is too well rusted to tell anymore i guess , but leave it alone it looks spot on from your picture so something else is wrong ,
    Dish bracket for 28/23.5E etc.. should be 21-23 if dish is a Triax dish it is easy to see looking at the dish bracket arrow to find exact elevation for your dish
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    to find your correct Elevation

    here is a really good guide but keep in mind this is for Ireland your location will be different =>
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    https://sites.google.com/site/freetoairinfo/home/approximate-dish-elevation-angles-for-ireland
    AND MOTOR SET UP GUIDE =>
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    https://sites.google.com/site/freetoairinfo/home/how-to-install-and-align-a-diseqc-motor
    most important is tell us dish type 1meter offset dish ?
    or better still take a picture of the dish bracket if u can to see what its set at ?

    the motor itself should be perfectly spot on looking at your picture even if its badly rusted .

    Check the pole - ensure that the mounting pole is perfectly straight with a level or inclinometer. If the pole is not level, your dish will not properly track the arc of satellites.

    PLEASE POST BACK MORE INFO Dish type and Are you using USALS ? or Disecq ?
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    in the past have found that it tends to be the clamp on motor to pole is the one that slips, stopped it happening by drilling small hole through bracket into pole and screwing self tapping screw in .

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    Hi using diseq 1.2 but wws using usals last year and it was fine. Here is some pics20190808_080231.jpg
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    It could be the trees there seems to be a lot of them

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    Before altering your settings and all that involves ,I would first of all try something simple like the 4 screws that hold the face of the dish to the bracket may have come loose .I still have the same dish and motor as when I started in 2004.This is the only thing I've had go wrong in all that time.I replaced 4 large self tapping screws with nuts and bolts never had trouble since.
    I can see nuts and bolts already on yours.Just try tightening them first of all.
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    What are your signal quality readings on 19.2E, 16E, and 13E?
    If the pole is no longer plumb, or the dish/motor has become misaligned then you should notice the signal quality levels dropping, from what they were, as you move the dish to your farther East/West satellites.


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    Quote Originally Posted by satpaul View Post
    It could be the trees there seems to be a lot of them
    Exactly Paul!

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    13e quality = 93% signal = 86%
    16e quality = 59% signal = 86%
    19e quality = 93% signal = 82%
    0.8w quality = 58% signal = 78%

    here is some pics of my motor and what its set on thanks. 20190808_143438.jpg20190808_143402.jpg

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    The fact that the signal isn't dropping off, much, between 13E, and 19.2E, means that you should get a signal, on 23.5E, so I agree with others, check if the trees are blocking the signal.

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    That motor is a DigiPower H-H motor SG-2100A - if you do a search you can find an installation manual for that particular motor.

    On the first pic you posted it shows the elevation you have it set to - that's the triangular indicator immediately to the right of the rusted bolt. You have it set to 35°, which is slightly out (in theory) for your Liverpool location, but not far enough out to lose signals from 23°e & 28°e which you say is the problem. Don't change it unless you really understand all the settings that you need, because whoever installed it would have compensated with the elevation setting of the dish on its mounting (and that is impossible to see from the pics you have posted).

    Like the others have said above, I suspect there are other problems that are causing loss of signal on 23°e/28° - especially as you get a good signal from19°e.

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    From what I can see there doesn't seem to be any trees blocking it when it goes to 28e but whether it is pointing at 28e I am not sure.

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    If using Diseqc 1.2 you can adjust the settings to get the best signal quality.
    What image are you using?
    Have you tried the Positioner Setup option, in the Tuner menu?
    Start with 23.5E, ensuring that you are using an active transponder.
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    Hi openvix yes tried with positioner setup but no luck

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    You used the fine movement option, to step west, and east, in an attempt to find a signal?
    Which transponder were you tuned in to?

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    Hi If you were using USALS and was working fine..why did you change to 1.2 ...i would try and use USALS again and send it Hotbird (13 east)..make sure you get Hotbird working fine then go to 28.2 east and see if you get a signal. if you dont get a signal try and tweak the motor up or down slightly and see if you get a picture..If not its probably your dish angles may be slightly out..Remember USALS is pretty accurate when finding satellites and less hassle in my opinion ...Regards

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    hi so how would i set it up with usals because I would need to alter my dish as it not curently working when I put usals on thanks

    also when i get a signal on 23.5e its bringing in 19e channels?

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    THEN your motor to pole clamp has slipped west about 4 degrees,have a close look at the pole for slip marks,you could mark a line from bracket to pole, then loosen the bracket and move it 4 degrees approx east tighten the clamp if /when you get 23.5 picture,set box on a 23 free to air channel move assy very slowly and give box time to lock,and dont stand in front of dish

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    Hi its not a great picture but i can see lines down pole possible its original position?20190809_162918(0).jpg

    what do you think?
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    YOU often see rust marks or stains on pole and motor clamp, and/or motor dish clamp where clamps used to be.
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