Enigma 2 on azbox!!!

**iko** · 01-07-2009, 01:54 PM

Hi Guys
I personally Want to See E2 On Azbox HD, Do you Guys think it will be possible one day or Opensat will never Public the Source codes ...
There are many Developers Waiting for the Big day But how Long ?
Come on Opensat Do something about that we wish to see that Beautiful Hardware supported by many Dev.Groups ...

**scrupples** · 01-07-2009, 02:11 PM

Enigma 2 on azbox!!!

should be

Enigma 2 on azbox???

**iko** · 01-07-2009, 03:46 PM

we need some attention here !!!
sorry I'll try to sort that out

what you guys think about it?
No comment so far ...

**Carp95** · 01-07-2009, 03:59 PM

Please NO!!!!!!!!!!!

Why you want E2 on Az?? Whats the benefit?????

**iko** · 01-07-2009, 04:32 PM

dude
that's gonna be alternative fw

2 platform will work next to each other,more plug-in will be available,because it will be an open source ,azbox will attract more developers...
E2 will turn Azbox to work much faster than now because azbox works with a two seperate processes Tv and Menu that's why box is not crush down even If Tv picture locked up....that stuff makes the box a bit sluggish...
there will be official fw and E2 you'll use which ever you like

Guys please remember dreambox 500hd will hit to Market in 1-2 weeks time with a €300 price tag!!!
this will badly effect azbox sales
please Be realistic and public the source codes

**valerica** · 01-07-2009, 04:55 PM

There's no E2 benefit 4 emus : look at the sh4 proc. based receivers .
Regarding quality of HD picture i had a bad experience with kathrein : till early march this year (when i sold mine) , E2 never reached the picture sharpness that aaf based on orig. s/w had .

Cheers ,
Val .

**kanber_kav** · 01-07-2009, 05:03 PM

I want to work on Azbox but I can't do anything with no source code

**BE-COOL** · 01-07-2009, 05:03 PM

The only good thing about enigma it's the web interface, but soon we should have web interface in the official firmware...

**iko** · 01-07-2009, 05:04 PM

e2 will boost Azbox performance for sure...
CPU let down Kathie ,Sigma+e2 will be great but looks like it will never happen :(

**kanber_kav** · 01-07-2009, 05:16 PM

Real face of e2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nBmNHHxNiA

**Friendly-Face** · 01-07-2009, 05:40 PM

there will be no benifit whatsoever on Azbox with Enigma2
there will be no extra emu or pluggins, this is becouse all the emus and the plugins will need to be complied for Sigma architecture.

so Enigma2 just for the fun of it , will be los of time.

What can be very nice , for both us small knowledge ppl, and for developers will be the reliase of the Source form Opensat, if they keep the source clouse as it is now then we are dead fish, and left with a box that is clouse source and we are forced to have a receiver that was prommised as open source.

Opensat must give more from the open source, if not then they will louse much of the marked.

**iko** · 01-07-2009, 05:50 PM

e2 or not opensat should allow people to work on Fw

**kanber_kav** · 01-07-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Friendly-Face

there will be no benifit whatsoever on Azbox with Enigma2
there will be no extra emu or pluggins, this is becouse all the emus and the plugins will need to be complied for Sigma architecture.

so Enigma2 just for the fun of it , will be los of time.

What can be very nice , for both us small knowledge ppl, and for developers will be the reliase of the Source form Opensat, if they keep the source clouse as it is now then we are dead fish, and left with a box that is clouse source and we are forced to have a receiver that was prommised as open source.

Opensat must give more from the open source, if not then they will louse much of the marked.

can be justified. But I can not do something we did not have source code. This will be the last azboxsun.

works with the enigma2 linuxdvbapi

EMU and EMU enigma2 their existing Opensat api will work warned.

According OpenXCAS a enigma2 edit.

How about source code of the tv part only?

If not I may even start to look somewhere else...

**kanber_kav** · 01-07-2009, 06:00 PM

http://www.azboxforum.nl/
site excerpt

http://www.4shared.com/file/91326915...tructures.html

Channel_Structures.

But missing library. uffffffffff

In this type of forum, if you share the source code go.

How comes you call the Azbox as a Linux receiver with no source code available for public

Isn't it a little bit Wierd LOL

**chemstar** · 01-07-2009, 06:43 PM

@kanber_kav
only for information: you will never get sources from opensat. the only stuff you will get ("MAYBEEE MAYBEEEE SOMEDAY") are the kernel drivers.

and telesat has made a complete ch. editor based on the chanel structures you've posted!!! so you should be able to setup your -I and -L to get it working.

**iko** · 02-07-2009, 12:35 AM

MAybe 2x DVB-s2 is really not possible?
That fact may forcing opensat to not share source code ?!?
What do you think?

**goran** · 02-07-2009, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by chemstar

@kanber_kav
only for information: you will never get sources from opensat. the only stuff you will get ("MAYBEEE MAYBEEEE SOMEDAY") are the kernel drivers.

and telesat has made a complete ch. editor based on the chanel structures you've posted!!!

My guess, as a lay person [from Humanities, not IT, me - just an amateur hobbyist

], is that - if that is so - that is the reason why the editor is a bit limited and slow, hence some functions were removed in the latter version etc. etc.

Anyway, Opensat, as I stated before, are afraid of pirates and if they give the drivers - even the "low level drivers"? - it might happen very, very quickly somewhere in Asia [read China], they think, hence no "open source"...

I think it's reasonable, up to a point. Which point? "Return of investment", getting some profit and then - maybe...

Btw, DMM had trouble with such stuff and they behaved atrociously, destroying other people's property/HW!!! Let's hope it doesn't happen in this case, if the box is pirated at some point...

**pr2** · 02-07-2009, 08:39 AM

Hi,

I will give you my own opinion about E2.

Personally I prefer to have one and only one firmware available on a STB so that all the developers effort go in the same direction.

Meaning that if someone develop a plug-in for Azbox everybody can use it on its box. Otherwhise forum will have plenty of question about multi-boot, please compile your plugins for XYZ image, we need this also on XYZ, ....

So one stable firmware for everybody + developers for plugins.

Look at what DGS (IPBox, Cuberevo) is doing, they release an official firmware full of bugs, each new release brings new bugs and don't solve the old ones. Now they port their effort on E2 and same story.

Moreover, people think that because they will have E2 all the plugins will works, this is not true, binary are different so every plugins will need to be re-compiled for the Sigma Design (Azbox) processor. So again it will be the same complaints for plugins please compile it for AZbox...

So for me focusing on one and only one firmware is the right way to go, if we want to make Azbox a great success.

Pr2