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Originally Posted by kanber_kav
28.03.2010 output e2 on the azboxhd
[/B]what about this?:respect-067:Quote:
Originally Posted by raskino
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Originally Posted by kanber_kav
28.03.2010 output e2 on the azboxhd
[/B]what about this?:respect-067:Quote:
Originally Posted by raskino
i don't know exactly the subject you guys are discussing but i can say 100% sure, opensat offered free receivers and € to those interested in private forums.Only to those who delivered of course, other than that i dunno any details.
I think You misunderstand what Raskino said.Quote:
Originally Posted by aspava
He means "The team will publish their work only if they have their economic interest, that if someone interested in selling these decoders will pay"
please try not to create controversy when there's no need.
@ raskino
so you managed it to port e2 on az, but you dont wanna share it because of the money??
and you think opensucks give you that money?
only so out of curiosity, how much do you cost?
NO E2 License you can't sell it because you will have Dreams lawers at yir door or at opensats but i dought they would buy it
he never said that ... whoever is progressing with enigma 2 or anything related..of course wants € to continue :S some guys only do this for money. its comprehensiveQuote:
Originally Posted by am20033
but!! i'm not giving any names!! and not accusing anyone, make that clear!
so who was it who promised us to release e2 at 28.3.2010??
sorry! I have not explained well!Quote:
Originally Posted by aspava
i dont want to give any names or acusing anyone..but kamber_kev had some info about that.
hahaha... i dont want give any names but i'll do so anyway!!!! ROFL!
am i talking chinese? ....
i said i don't want to give any names, BUT kanber had some info about that.
I'm not saying he promised anything to anyone!! Only said that he had some info about who told him day 28.
iTīs no metter any more,what is important is that -people dont belive you and the rest who told about 28 march anymore:respect-050:
No man, don't worry. We have another dumb attack. It's not the first time this happens, get used to it and don't answer to :o16: people...Quote:
Originally Posted by hfmls
yes,we are dumb because we belive what people write on this forum!
Hi guys,
same times i don't understand same comments, from same people!
In these particular case hfmls, share with us the info that he have, and he write and share what he can, with out compromise him fonts!
And it's because that I don't understand same posts!
I think it much more relevant OpenSat resolve same bug's, and if one day, we also can have E2 running on our equipment will be nice!
Thanks
I already warned you guys in the first day off this thread!
Furthermore hfmls and raskino are no members of any dev-team.
But hey you all called me names and I should apologize to hfmls, so far no need for that at all ( seems that he ows you guys something before I ow him)
p.s Leerock read you're postings in this topic you could learn something:chillpill:
who cares.Quote:
Originally Posted by aspava
nobodys owes anything to anyone. i gave the info because i wanted to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carp95
and i'll continue to do so.
Well we can hope that who must pay (and it is obvious not US, we've done already when we bought the beast :biggrinjester:) do it ASAP, so we can see this E2
firmware... I hope we don't have to wait months with youtubeS movies as when S-Y goes blacks, rights Raskino :eek:?
I do not understand why so much anger towards others users as if Azbox's problems are the fault of Raskino or Hflms or any other user.
Do not forget that instead of all this is the fault of these gentlemen who have had a wonderful idea: even if only distributors become producers to earn more...
Read the arcticle and you will realize what kind of structure is Opensat.
hxxp://www.docstoc.com/docs/21409747/azbox
Currently they only have done a lot of money with a receiver good as hardware but incredibly limited in terms of software; many people believed that using a particular platform was guaranteed a good final product.
Azbox is limited because as stated by arrticle Opensat does not have in hand the whole development of this decoder and we also understands with the evolution of the firmware last year.
So let us stop biting each other and try to raise awareness Opensat to do everything they had to change things.
E2 on AZBox is a defeat for Opensat that realized the error made for choosing a platform too closed and a defeat for us users that had believed the promises of a product and because E2 on AZBox mean to patch the current situation, but it is also true that it is better to patch a hole!
We must awaken Opensat to give to azbox a second option with a new firmware (E2) and if it need OPENSAT must pay external teams for its development as we have paid his decoder.
It is clear that the internal resources are not able to solve the problems of the decoder or at least the current firmware seems to have a good basis but also many problems, especially the biggest problem is that they are able to grow it internally.
Waiting E2, many people stop to ask Opensat modify to their firmware.
We gave to Opensat many times to solve azbox problems, they promised to us daily updates then weekly updates and even if we will wait for month or year they can't or would not do want we need.
I'm tired of asking patch from Opensat, I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!
Rather than slay each other we should all together submit the bill to Opensat!!!!!
for me i will give him money only because he is trying to make e2 working on azbox.
Yeah, I think your missing my point... Kanber is a name lol! ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by hfmls
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This hobby just make me sick nowadays, it's all about money and bribing.
The Linux free spirit where peope contributed for free to get recognition does not exist in this hobby anymore.
I agree with you, but this is not an hobby anymore, this is capitalism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Likvid
Besides, it's not fair that programers do all the hard work, and the people who only sell the receivers get all the money.
Even if Enigma does come to AzBox, judging by the original firmware, it will take ages to get stable, or maybe it will never reach that point.
+1
That's gonna be the day Trouble Starts ;)
who cares?Quote:
Originally Posted by hfmls
haha,on this way Opensat will give money with no problem..this is just empty talking,like grandmother..:respect-039:
off topic:
again i ask, do u think i care when u or other person say i don't believe you?
i really don't.
i understand you really good,you write what you want,like 28 march,and it was a lie,and you dont care,you write again:respect-063:
so you dont respect us,but we must respect you and your lying comment:cool:
and we must respect your stupidity, was i the one starting to talk about 28th march?
either way, i respect your dumbness.
The word lie is a very harsh word to be using in this context... please re edit to misinformed. thats all he is guilty of if smoeone tell you something which doesnt happen does that make you the lyer? no it makes you mis informed please stop flamming fellow members. :respect-051:Quote:
Originally Posted by aspava
i dont have anything against anybody,but i can also write what i hear somewhere,and than play like its not my fault.@raskino allready say sorry,and i respect that and its no problem,but hmfls say that he DONT CARE what we think,this is correct?
so,beg for money from Opensat what you dont get,because you (author):mad: dobt have nothing
haha:respect-010:Quote:
Originally Posted by hfmls
i never said day 28. and yes that was what i was told, since some stuff i was told was confirmed and other wasn't i decided to lay low for a bit.
why should i ask you sorry!? lol
am i asking anyone for money? dude ... do u really know how to read english?
or r u really that smart that u can't understand what i am saying.
did u realize i have nothing to do with enigma2 or coders?
geez such a dumbass...read all topics before u talk ****.
i don't have anything?
again are u that smart?
if i had something i would have posted long time ago...
sometimes i just don't know why do i care...
stupidity has a limit....but nor for you i can tell.
again, I DON'T CARE.
do i make YOU or ANYONE read this thread? no. so pls get lost if you don't have anything clever to say.
@ all members.
It starts to be boring, since the begining of this topic to see that every time we start to step forward "one step" with some ineteresting post even if it represents nothing but "effort" for developing this stb....... just because some "end users" & I mean it only end users not dev's or even real hobyists are again & again wasting time by posting negatively & getting off-topic just by insulting others or talking about "promissed" dates ...... all that because they are not enough patient, or they don't believe on reality that any progress must be paid for it's value.
So I guess that Opensat must be happy for what's going on in this forum since we don't ask them anything anymore & instead some of us are blaming or accusing those who gave dates & others are rushing dev's who are working to implement e2 & others from time to time are informing us & repeting that they are fade up and will sell their box and go to to buy ... while few others are helping dev's with do***entations or whatever.
The result: Opensat is watching & don't rush for any progress to avoid bugs in their fw.... meanwhile, NO ONE asked them to pay & help dev's working on e2.
So STOP acting that way, imagine you are one of these people who are giving all their time to give more sense & value for what you bought from Opensat... then you face flaming or rushing while you don't help in any way..
What do you expect: having e2 like this, did you ever know how long it takes to compile a stable fw (me personaly i have no enough knowledge to answer this question, but i guess it is not few weeks and not even months).
At last, i am asking all of you to be more objective & to stop flaming people because they just shared infos with fixed dates or whatever ... & instead of rushing them, go rush Opensat to pay dev's or to at least to give them more support with do***entations.
:cheers2:
I have been checking up on this thread since it's inception. Yes it got me excited and yes I too feel a tad disappointed, but then again I don't believe it's fair to take our frustrations out one another.
How about we take a more organized and structured approach? I suggest three threads:
1) First thread for a petition/vote by members who 'feel' they have constructive critici*** to contribute towards opensat's firmware releases. Ask them for a modular approach towards firmware updates and fixes. At least that way members can vote on what fixes take priority and then we merely wait for the weekly/fortnightly updates... We then have a roadmap for the fixes and their release dates.
(Yes i know i will be slandered over my naivety but hey who cares :) )
2) A thread where people can see in a graphical form of what needs to be done for the E2 port to azbox. e.g. dvbapi compilation progress and other modules which need to be present. A progress bar per module so to speak so everyone can see what has and needs to be done without repeatedly asking. WHEN WILL IT BE READY!
Also perhaps people who want to contribute do***entation and source code would be the only ones able to write in the thread. Rest of us should have a read-only right. Maybe the developers could be kind enough to leave a sort of blog every know and again to appraise the slightly more technically minded amongst us.
3) A thread locked and hidden for the use of developers only to collaborate on development of the E2 port.
Just my two cents worth...
Failing all the above we hire a developer and donate to get the E2 :P (FAT CHANCE!)
Before all that is need to do a SDK, and put it on GIT for example.
Without that is impossible to start realy DEV on this box.
I can suggest to use buildroot for it, and add files (tar balls) on a uploader, and just link download to it.
:king-041:
I only later will tray!
Enigma Setup
http://i41.tinypic.com/262uvdv.png
Link_http://rapidshare.com/files/375350832/enigma.rar.html
sgwarez...that's around for a few days..just an installer.
ok,you dont need to care what we think about you,because you are just copy/paste member,nothing alse:cheers2:
respect to the people who try to do something,not just talking:respect-053: