Enigma 2 - AZBOX HD

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Originally Posted by crabber

E2 has been running on Kathrein UFS910 for a very long time now with several teams supporting it. Using E2 on this receiver you could almost be forgiven for thinking it were a dreambox.
However apart from stability issues there is one major difference. The HD picture quality is not as good as with the original firmware, (which does bugger all, cant even drive a dish properly) so despite many peoples best efforts it just isnt good enough.
I wonder if the Azbox will be?

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kathrein enigma 2 image quality sucks because they had to do audio/video drivers from scratch.

with azbox hd / opensat, that won't happen, since it's opensat applying real drivers and patches.

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Originally Posted by mushroom

is nabilo team behind the project?

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no, OPENSAT is.
but opensat will PROBABLY give all snapshots to the best teams interested.
Probably public too.

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Originally Posted by grizzlyt

Closed source shouldn't be supported, AZBox will go the way of the samurai.

If the drivers are crap and closed source , the Enigma is crap too.

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drivers were done by opensat. they have all source code. so i suppose is gonna have KINDA good drivers. I HOPE.

there's no logic in making it closed source now. It's all patched up, they probably don't need to worry with GPL licenses i dunno.

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Originally Posted by DJBlu

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hmfls.

You must be working on a commision basis. I can't beleive the amount of time and effort you have given to this company.

Azbox HD has missed the boat. The ship has sailed.

I wouldn't waste my breath no more.

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again?
i don't win any € from opensat or any other company.
i'm not "selling" azbox in forum.

once again i am TELLING WHAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT ENIGMA 2!

i don't care about other stuff. i don't have any contract with opensat, i'm not a mod or beta tester.

so i can say whatever da hell i want.
of course, what i am saying, it's true. u guys should have your sources too. i say it again, confirm it.

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Originally Posted by adrray1974

I have just heard , enigma availabvle in couple of days. Machine code only available to OpenSat and Nabilo... dont know if anyone else as heard this??

Adi

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yes

we will wait and see.at least enigma2 will give a new dynamic on azbox and it will be a toy to play with :)

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Originally Posted by hfmls

i told what i was told. i allways say this!

i don't work for any satelite company or emu team.
i just tell what i know/hear

u should go complain to EDK, he is the coder.
he also said SBOX new bin for azbox hd in next few days.
where is it? almost 2 months passed i dunno.
and i don't care. oscam kicks ass.

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OSCAM??
because it is better than MULTICAS?
MULTICAS is superlative compared to all emu (for azbox)

but for E2:
I say it's just a publicity stunt, I do not think enuigma 2 is better, perhaps even worse.

a different speech if we talk about neutrino.

P.S.
if they feel a lot, but unless you're a developer, I hope the developers see this post so maybe you understand that some info should tell the right people, not the first person who comes and who then reports them on a forum without being able to prove anything.
After a year that there are still problems on this receiver, you think it normal that a new OS comes out so we all have to start from scratch?

there is no reason to quarrel or provoke, let's wait and see what news there will be in the coming weeks.

If (as I believe) Hfmls news are true, many of us (myself in particular have been very critical last weeks) will be forced to do our "mea culpa" for criticism of Opensat and in particular to Fatgiant and Geeko (our interface) for the immobility of recent months.
I can not wait to do the mea culpa ...

About the Enigma stability we will discuss when we can prove on a large scale, however, do not think the original firmware will be replaced, it might be a way to decrease the pressure at which Opensat was (rightly) subjected to the immobility (perhaps only apparent) of recent months.

time will tell the truth and we do have to wait ...
:respect-048:

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Originally Posted by CU

OSCAM??
because it is better than MULTICAS?
MULTICAS is superlative compared to all emu (for azbox)

but for E2:
I say it's just a publicity stunt, I do not think enuigma 2 is better, perhaps even worse.

a different speech if we talk about neutrino.

P.S.
if they feel a lot, but unless you're a developer, I hope the developers see this post so maybe you understand that some info should tell the right people, not the first person who comes and who then reports them on a forum without being able to prove anything.
After a year that there are still problems on this receiver, you think it normal that a new OS comes out so we all have to start from scratch?

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who said anything about Multicas?

i said oscam is way better than sbox. and next few weeks internal card reader in azbox hd will be much better.
forget the off topic.

feel free to NOT READ THIS THREAD if u want!
i can tell whatever i want in a forum (without insults and misleading) of course.

i can't give you any proof. instead of your time spent in posting in this thread, go ckeck out your sources.
some users allready did (if u read this thread) and they confirmed it.

i JUST TOLD WHAT I WAS TOLD regarding enigma 2 news! so i decided to open a new thread.
do u think i care if u believe or not? i don't.

you'll just have to wait and see it for yourself. if u want proof, go search your proof.

All forums have these news... And i mean all but nabilosat :)
Since it is a matter of let's wait and see.
My opinion is to make stable their own firmware fix some things in network/usb speed , better EPG and then see what E2 can offer us .

If this is true, then I think it's to close our mouths. We will take hands to something else, not complaining to opensat but also we were have 2 crappy firmwares.

Only my opinion.

dear lord .... u guys just live to flame others right?
busted for not having a dog, busted for having a dog ...

lets just wait and see.probably good, probably bad. who knows, let's wait for the testing and then, make our judgements.
i for once, have hope. anything should be better than current firmware after 1 year of badges and patches :\

hfmls: I believe you in this.

I have been negative to a couple of times.
And I even have tought the box almost died because of lack of development.

But the recent things, although I didn't active involve in it, gave a little hope.
(tv api, 2 consecutive firmwares on almost the same day)

Ive been googling about what you said and it sure looks like there's really something out there.

Now just let them do their job and just wait for something and NOT kill it by being negative and describing it as a hoax.

If you don't believe it then just say nothing.

just my 2cents

among all those we have discussed, the only one who has a say is "Carp95", and he writes this

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Originally Posted by Carp95

Did you check these "sources" yourself?

Thread can be closed

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From another forum

The title:"Azbox HD - Enigma 2 days away"

"It's allmost out, still on test phase, but so far all mipsel are running good...Azbox will be the best rival of Dreambox HD, nothing we wouldn't expect...2 teams will have access to machine source code, Nabilo Team and Opensat Team, and just those two will create images and skins for Azbox HD receivers....hang on...heads up..."

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Originally Posted by tsakman

From another forum

The title:"Azbox HD - Enigma 2 days away"

"It's allmost out, still on test phase, but so far all mipsel are running good...Azbox will be the best rival of Dreambox HD, nothing we wouldn't expect...2 teams will have access to machine source code, Nabilo Team and Opensat Team, and just those two will create images and skins for Azbox HD receivers....hang on...heads up..."

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What a................................ ...

Ahhh well I already said enough, afraid this whole story is still based on message from audioslayer in april 2009.

Enigma1 wouldn't help @all that for shure, ported Enigma2 FW never run any good on any machine

yes, but this machine is mips, and allraedy have drivers for it.. so, good points here. i hope.

I hope that we can get soon a test version of enigma 2

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Originally Posted by rmt

I hope that we can get soon a test version of enigma 2

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Hiç sanmıyorum..İnsanlara boş yere umut vermeyin.
Bence bu bir satış politikası..

I think not .. do not give hope to people in vain.
I think this is a sales policy ..

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Originally Posted by kanber_kav

Hiç sanmıyorum..İnsanlara boş yere umut vermeyin.
Bence bu bir satış politikası..

I think not .. do not give hope to people in vain.
I think this is a sales policy ..

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i couldn't agree more !!!

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Originally Posted by kanber_kav

Hiç sanmıyorum..İnsanlara boş yere umut vermeyin.
Bence bu bir satış politikası..

I think not .. do not give hope to people in vain.
I think this is a sales policy ..

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Not by OpenSat then they didn't spread the rumour.
No good api's no Enigma it's that simple. ( mips isn't enough hfmls)

Spend some time on the famous google machine and you'll see you end up with the audioslayer statement from april 2009.( and how that ended we all know ).

i guess only time will tell now.

sorry for very dumb question but what is enigma 2 in detail please

it's most used OS in dreamboxs.

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Originally Posted by Carp95

Not by OpenSat then they didn't spread the rumour.
No good api's no Enigma it's that simple. ( mips isn't enough hfmls)

Spend some time on the famous google machine and you'll see you end up with the audioslayer statement from april 2009.( and how that ended we all know ).

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But if opensat is in on it. it is still possible. The ripper compiled dvb api -> only needed a slight driver adjustment...

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Originally Posted by hfmls

it's most used OS in dreamboxs.

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that lets you do what exactly plz

i dunno how is the situation with ripper regarding dvbapi. but he was working on it 3 weeks ago (didn't talk to him since then)
probably figured it out, otherwise no enigma 2 would be being tested right now.

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Originally Posted by iwols

that lets you do what exactly plz

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it's a OS that has many support, and it's opensource.
also, with luck we should be able to run mips bins.
like cccam etc etc. with luck.
we have to wait for official info.

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Originally Posted by kanber_kav

Hiç sanmıyorum..İnsanlara boş yere umut vermeyin.
Bence bu bir satış politikası..

I think not .. do not give hope to people in vain.
I think this is a sales policy ..

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TRUE! I don't believe anything in future without seeing it with my own eyes!!

Having now VU+ DUO and more than happy with it! Seeing a lot of people selling their DM800 and buying VU+DUO. Why? Well, they test it and agree that VU+ gets near DM8000. And this box is just 6 weeks on market...

cu
KJ

I'm not so convinced about the amount of truth in this news either actually.

Last thing I know is that OpenSat was trying to get some details on the capture of data streams from the Sigma drivers, and this seemed to be quite difficult to get from Sigma.

Then again, obviously it IS possible to create your own drivers on such a chipset, the quality and stability of these drivers will be questionable though.

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Originally Posted by Carp95

Spend some time on the famous google machine and you'll see you end up with the audioslayer statement from april 2009.( and how that ended we all know ).

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I spent some time on G and couldn't find what I'm looking for.....and therefore I don't know how it ended. Please enlighten me.

Denton

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Originally Posted by denton

I spent some time on G and couldn't find what I'm looking for.....and therefore I don't know how it ended. Please enlighten me.

Denton

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audioslayer posted a screenshot, months ago, of an azbox with enigma interface....
in the end it was just a skin...

Seems to be picking the pace this rumour. Some say 2days till firmware release...

Although, i'm not too sure.

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Originally Posted by leerock

audioslayer posted a screenshot, months ago, of an azbox with enigma interface....
in the end it was just a skin...

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Thanks - I now see the light :-)

maybe with E2 can save the AZ, we'll see that it behaves, but I see many problems, many patches.

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Originally Posted by hfmls

u should go complain to EDK, he is the coder.
he also said SBOX new bin for azbox hd in next few days.
where is it? almost 2 months passed i dunno.
and i don't care. oscam kicks ass.

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EDK people like working for love of art with no benefit, and do too much, no one can ask anybody anything, everyone in the community and doing what he can when he can.

soon you shall have new SBox news is now more important to resolve the version SBox E2, AZ will always be behind, when on time maybe someone else decides to do something for them. leftovers .... dog food. :beatdeadhorse5:
greetings and good night

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Originally Posted by massimo1167

If (as I believe) Hfmls news are true, many of us (myself in particular have been very critical last weeks) will be forced to do our "mea culpa" for criticism of Opensat and in particular to Fatgiant and Geeko (our interface) for the immobility of recent months.
I can not wait to do the mea culpa ...

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I do not think I should change a single word, this only proves one thing, they have no idea what they are doing, and have to drop their drawers for all of us to give them well over 1 year is my junk and we like bad, and I think it is getting worse, jajajajajajaja

those leaving Europe with his tail between his legs:ack2:

AFAIK all azbox fw development stuck on Sigma drivers.
So I cant get the purpose of running non-native OS
if CPU and tuner-unit(?) is not fully supported
under the native OS. If Sigma haven't supplied
new driver sources to opensat all these E2
are useless. It's like running Win XP on PC 286.
Hope Opensat will continue its work developing
new fw versions. From the other side if someone
has done some sigma reverse-engineering it will be
a great surprise.

Thanks for info anyway, it's interesting.

hfmls
I do not think you know (together with many here) what DVB API is.
I invite everyone to read about it.(V4l video for linux,DVB api 1-3-4-5)

Is basically a linux interface for DVB hardware and CA device.
Enigma 2 follows DVB api 3 specs.
Enigma 1 follows DVB api 1.

to be honest, i know what the ripper told me. i got the idea. but i'm not a pro in the subject.

@terrorman u shouldn't change a single word!! support sucks and firmware over a year sucks!! they should have done this 1 year ago!