Enigma 2 by The_ripper - TEST -

Resuming, and from what you guys said, for azbox to play high bitrate media it needs:

- The player (the application) needs to be very light (low CPU use) specially when dealing with DTS and the OS can't have programs with much CPU use running in the background. A priority manager could still help, or maybe disable the tuners when playing a movie.
or
- Media have to be read in internal HDD (SATA in premium, IDE in elite).
or
- Still use some overclocking.

Regards and thanks to all involved on porting enigma2 to azbox.

if you kill all unnecessary processes you can get transfer speed of around 7.5MB/s on current official fw (with nfs/udp). As it was said - 863x cpu must handle network traffic and is not able to do anything meaningful when you get to such speeds :(
New sigma cpu's (865x) have special co-processor to handle network traffic so it can reach 12MB/s (with nfs/udp) which means it actually saturates all available bandwidth on 100Mb connection.

BTW,

We will not be able to use all E2 plugins/addons just by downloading directly Dreambox versions, we'll need to compile them for azbox, right?

probably not. everything must be compiled. but possibly after this is released many people will be interested to develope?

well..at least that's our hope :)

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milix is right about all things, thats why they added HW Acceleration option, or better to say they incrase x.pll3 value that affect CPU speed and thats how you got much faster transfer on LAN/USB after you set this option.

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The HW Acceleration not only affects the CPU but at the same BUS data that improves the whole system.


The HW Acceleration OFF:

system type : Sigma Designs TangoX
processor : 0
cpu model : MIPS 4KEc V6.9
Initial BogoMIPS : 296.96
wait instruction : yes
microsecond timers : yes
tlb_entries : 32
extra interrupt vector : yes
hardware watchpoint : yes
ASEs implemented : mips16
VCED exceptions : not available
VCEI exceptions : not available
System bus frequency : 200250000 Hz
CPU frequency : 300375000 Hz
DSP frequency : 300375000 Hz

The HW Acceleration ON:

system type : Sigma Designs TangoX
processor : 0
cpu model : MIPS 4KEc V6.9
Initial BogoMIPS : 344.06
wait instruction : yes
microsecond timers : yes
tlb_entries : 32
extra interrupt vector : yes
hardware watchpoint : yes
ASEs implemented : mips16
VCED exceptions : not available
VCEI exceptions : not available
System bus frequency : 231750000 Hz
CPU frequency : 347625000 Hz
DSP frequency : 347625000 Hz



As you can see the CPU after activating the HWA has increased 47 Mhz and 31 Mhz BUS data.

CPU:
With any current one Azbox firmware working with a cam only one channel and viewing the CPU is at 88%, this number is very high, if we see a mkv for example, the CPU is set to 99.5% for that reason there are power cuts and freezes.

Memory:
The memory is a little better, watching a channel only use 50% and we are seeing a 80% mkv.

So with this data we can say that the main problems are mainly the CPU and the Data BUS.

Ideally, with E2, the CPU should not exceed 70% in normal operation, and if you saw a mkv / networking should not exceed 80% with this more fluid system official.v

Salu2.

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Originally Posted by milix

Ideally, with E2, the CPU should not exceed 70% in normal operation, and if you saw a mkv / networking should not exceed 80% with this more fluid system official.v
Salu2.

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I hope to verify that ASAP, The_Ripper and his team is the last one opportunity for azbox!!!

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I hope to verify that ASAP, The_Ripper and his team is the last one opportunity for azbox!!!

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The firmware (Opensat) current can also be greatly improved and can be another important option.

The best thing would be to have current firmware E2 and working properly.

Salu2.

what causes the Hardware acceleration NOT to work on an Elite?

I have a DVB-S and a DVB-T card in my elite and it froze when i tried hardware Acceleartion ON.

Looks like some EPG plugin has been released and it seems to work on Sky IT, D+ ... I just got an email from the azboxhd.es forum (EPG 2.0 by Morser)

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Originally Posted by buyukbang

BTW,

We will not be able to use all E2 plugins/addons just by downloading directly Dreambox versions, we'll need to compile them for azbox, right?

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I don't think it will be needed to be compiled, since dreambox and azbox have the same CPU (MIPS) although different chipset/SoC (System on a Chip), SIGMA for azbox, Broadcom for dreambox.

AFAIK it need to be compiled only if there is something different in E2 for azbox (lack of API or library) compared to E2 from dreambox.
Softcams from dreambox should work without any modification in azbox (maybe except the card reading part).

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Originally Posted by happyhammer

what causes the Hardware acceleration NOT to work on an Elite?

I have a DVB-S and a DVB-T card in my elite and it froze when i tried hardware Acceleartion ON.

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It's not an elite problem, you have to understand how overclock (HW acceleration) works.
As in a PC when you overclock the BUS (specially in the old days) you affected everything connected to the BUS, like VGA cards, HDD, CPU, sound cards, etc. Some of them could handle a faster BUS clock others don't, also every CPU is different.
If you buy the exactly same model from a Intel or AMD CPU some of them will reach 4GHz in air, others don't. If Intel or AMD could, they would create fast CPUs (>3.6GHz), but not all CPUs come out the same, the silicon is not the same, can have minor defects that will affect the transistors and wires.
They have to test and bin each CPU, the best ones will be selled as fast parts (or be selled as a server CPU), the ones with major defects (that makes one core being unfunctional) will be a dual-core or triple-core instead of a quad-core.

The same happens in our azbox, not all the hardware inside is the exactly same from azbox to azbox, some of the chipsets/SoC and tuners (even maybe some HDD) will work with the overclock, others don't.
And inside my azbox unfortunately the DVB-S2 tuner can't work with the BUS at 230MHz, so I can't use HW acceleration...

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by happyhammer

what causes the Hardware acceleration NOT to work on an Elite?

I have a DVB-S and a DVB-T card in my elite and it froze when i tried hardware Acceleartion ON.

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Should work OK if you take out the second tuner (DVB-T).
As it was never the goal to put second tuner in a Elite model ( Now need for everybody to react by saying it was!).

Just test it it should be OK.

Now for E2

Most plugins/Addons will work "out off the box" as they say.
Just the ones designed for Dreambox only ( not for Enigma2 ) could have problem but that ones you won't need in E2 on Azbox.

Emulators will work no problem ( indeed internal cardreader could be a issue )

yes i agree completly.

Im my azbox i use Overclock and i have 2 tuners, one DVB-S2 and a DVB-C and both work fine.

I just need to say, that in my case i had some problems with overclock but the problems was the same problem in every computer. Heat.

I just placed a fan over the box and the sistem became very stable, and never give me a problem again. Without that the box was very hot, about 60º to 70º degrees and the ambient temp is 30 to 40 degrees in here, summer.

With the fan the temp of the box drops to the same ambient temp of 30 to 40 degrees.

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Originally Posted by massimo1167

Do You believe that we can use the new kernel for USB DVB T-tuner recognition?

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For USB DVB T-Tuner question, just take a look on this webpage.
They have done it on Popcorn Hour A-110, which as we know use the same Sigma chipset as Azbox. There we can find the config file for the "old" linux kernel 2.6.15 and the USB drivers, a jukebox etc.
It's is very interesting.

@The_Ripper, about internal card reader. What are your thoughts on that? will it work ok as a sci0? How is the situation?

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by hfmls

@The_Ripper, about internal card reader. What are your thoughts on that? will it work ok as a sci0? How is the situation?

Thank you.

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For me it seems impossible, but is a good question for our master ;)

So the drivers for the usb-tdt officer in our decoders sigma? By bringing the same chip should work no.

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will it work ok as a sci0

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No different name but hey CCcam.cfg leads you the way (when drivers and adress are ok in E2 )

Uz svo uvazavanje,ali moram na nasem jeziku.RIPER kada ce otprilike biti gotova beta verzija,za test.Znam da je nezahvalno,ali ako moze nesta priblizno oko E2.Uveseli nas molm te.Poz.

english please ...

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Originally Posted by hfmls

english please ...

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He's asking when beta will be ready to test.

Answer is:

- When all jobs are done!!

Any news? Maybe we can test E2 for Azbox as mediaplayer only. So need to wait for tuner divers ;)

You just have to wait as all of us. When its done it will come out.

@pegaman
Problem is adjusting E2 code,gstreamer and dvbmediasink plugin for mediaplayer ...

every one has gone without enigma for over a year now so a few more months wont hurt any one

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Originally Posted by The_Ripper

@pegaman
Problem is adjusting E2 code,gstreamer and dvbmediasink plugin for mediaplayer ...

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@The_Ripper

What is the situation about tunners, demux and e2 plugins compatibility??

Thankss :)

@The_Ripper,

There are some mkv files that can be opened (we got sound and picture) with official firmware and some others cannot (sound and/or picture is missing)

Will we have the same result for the same files with the E2 media player? If external codecs are being used with E2 mediaplayer, I think we'll get different results which is very good since official firmware and E2 mediaplayer will be alternative to each other. But if E2 will directly use hardware support, then I think we'll get same results with official firmware?

i don't think so buyukbang, it's onlky a matter of coding/adapting the code to certain decode/codec.

i remember some mkv's didn't play or mp4, and opensat (when they used to work and do something) managed to add suport for different codecs and h264 levels, etc etc.

So..if things are coded ok, all will be fine. with time it will get near perfection i believe :)
(enigma 2 media player)

with time i will be a millionaire i believe :)

Just small output of the log while testing DVB-S2 driver and Tuner with zapp application :)

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zapping to 2 'ZDF':
sat 0, frequency = 11954 MHz H, symbolrate 27500000, vpid = 0x006e, apid = 0x0078
polarity/voltage = 1
dtv_property_cache_sync()
status 00 | signal dd40 | snr 0000 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 |
status 1f | signal ddc0 | snr 8999 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK


CX24116 device 00000501
DVB: registering frontend 0 (Conexant CX24116/CX24118)...
cx24116_load_firmware: FW version 1.23.86.1
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Firmware upload complete

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So for all of You which worry about progress, tuner is fixed :)

Thanks to the_ripper .

Soon, more news.

awesome news :)
now mediaplayer to be finished right?

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Originally Posted by buyukbang

@The_Ripper,

There are some mkv files that can be opened (we got sound and picture) with official firmware and some others cannot (sound and/or picture is missing)

Will we have the same result for the same files with the E2 media player? If external codecs are being used with E2 mediaplayer, I think we'll get different results which is very good since official firmware and E2 mediaplayer will be alternative to each other. But if E2 will directly use hardware support, then I think we'll get same results with official firmware?

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I don't think it is hardware issue since PopcornHour A-110 which is known to have very good mkv support has the same Sigma processor

Then already is over the drivers of DVB-S2 and you see that what it's all good. Then you know something of the DVB-C2 as there are many who have this tuner mounted instead of DVB-T2.

The blind scan function will be available with E2?
I think this function is not implemented natively on E2...

Another question: diseq 1.2 support is already available with the current version E2 for Azbox?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by fcis7000e+

The blind scan function will be available with E2?
I think this function is not implemented natively on E2...

Another question: diseq 1.2 support is already available with the current version E2 for Azbox?

Thanks

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Blindscan is in -sh4 E2 ( only for sharptuners)
New DMM tuners will have blindscan, Ghost DMM dev will put it in E2 repo.

say that there is still much to be able to try on my elite? I am prepared to do if you need testers let me know. hello

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Originally Posted by MickeySa

Just small output of the log while testing DVB-S2 driver and Tuner with zapp application :)

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zapping to 2 'ZDF':
sat 0, frequency = 11954 MHz H, symbolrate 27500000, vpid = 0x006e, apid = 0x0078
polarity/voltage = 1
dtv_property_cache_sync()
status 00 | signal dd40 | snr 0000 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 |
status 1f | signal ddc0 | snr 8999 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK


CX24116 device 00000501
DVB: registering frontend 0 (Conexant CX24116/CX24118)...
cx24116_load_firmware: FW version 1.23.86.1
cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Firmware upload complete

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So for all of You which worry about progress, tuner is fixed :)

Thanks to the_ripper .

Soon, more news.

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I do not want to put pressure, but I'm anxiously waiting to see the final result, as all in this forum.
The work you are doing is the only reason that made me decide not to sell the AZBox because I think it's a great machine with a firmware not at the same level (which happened to opensat are still on vacation?)
So I I ask You, what remains to be done before we can install a beta release on our AZBox?

I also wonder if you thought to implement a multi-boot from HD to test different images and even alternatives to the original.

That said, I wanted to thank you for all your work.
Thanks!

thats it i've had enough all the whingers asking what about this what about that when will it be ready its a wonder the ripper hasnt said f@@k the lot of you leave the man in peace to do what he has to do do you want beta versions that hook up your boxes or do you want something that is stable all you know all would be experts that cant wait try writing some of the scripts if you can and help ripper instead of asking all the time when it will be ready if it was easy the job would have been done by open**** full respect to ripper and his team for trying to improve our boxes take all the time you need and ignore those posters who whinge all the time

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Originally Posted by automan2

thats it i've had enough all the whingers asking what about this what about that when will it be ready its a wonder the ripper hasnt said f@@k the lot of you leave the man in peace to do what he has to do do you want beta versions that hook up your boxes or do you want something that is stable all you know all would be experts that cant wait try writing some of the scripts if you can and help ripper instead of asking all the time when it will be ready if it was easy the job would have been done by open**** full respect to ripper and his team for trying to improve our boxes take all the time you need and ignore those posters who whinge all the time

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This is the first time You write in this thread, what a pity, you missed a great opportunity to continue to make a good impression!!!

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Originally Posted by automan2

thats it i've had enough all the whingers asking what about this what about that when will it be ready its a wonder the ripper hasnt said f@@k the lot of you ....

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But Who are You to write a comment like that?
This Thread was opened by MickeySa to inform us about their project.
My request is lawful and justified by the willingness shown by MickeySa, The_Ripper and Telesat to relate in this forum.


I think my question is a fair question, instead your first post in this thread is inappropriate.

Good evening.

Aggree to massimo1167. Of course we can ask politely. For what else forums are being used ? We ask, answer, discuss and share here... We just need to be polite !

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Originally Posted by massimo1167

This is the first time You write in this thread, what a pity, you missed a great opportunity to continue to make a good impression!!!


But Who are You to write a comment like that?
This Thread was opened by MickeySa to inform us about their project.
My request is lawful and justified by the willingness shown by MickeySa, The_Ripper and Telesat to relate in this forum.


I think my question is a fair question, instead your first post in this thread is inappropriate.

Good evening.

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Originally Posted by automan2

thats it i've had enough all the whingers asking what about this what about that when will it be ready its a wonder the ripper hasnt said f@@k the lot of you leave the man in peace to do what he has to do do you want beta versions that hook up your boxes or do you want something that is stable all you know all would be experts that cant wait try writing some of the scripts if you can and help ripper instead of asking all the time when it will be ready if it was easy the job would have been done by open**** full respect to ripper and his team for trying to improve our boxes take all the time you need and ignore those posters who whinge all the time

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Someone needs to learn how to build sentences! :woot-035: