For those whom have 4K Boxes

[3tv]

where did you find this info please? was it sattelliweb?... would be interested in any 4k feeds down the line.

blind scan 11686v 14250 7/8 currently itc.

As for the sky? 28.2 test after a full key search 0-f nothing found :(

[Dave5118]

blind scan 11686v 14250 7/8 currently itc.

Currently FTA atm

[3tv]

Currently FTA atm

do sky q box's offer manual channel scanning? im guessing not?

[catseye]

For info

SID 9000 has now been relabelled as Sly UHD Trial

[3tv]

wonder if some q owners have been selected to trial it under NDA's

[cloverleaf]

no I haven't been asked yet and no sky q box is not picking up this channel as yet

[3tv]

the encrypted pes track has gone and been replaced with an ac3 and mpeg audio track. hevc track looks the same. cant be far away from launching

[Dave5118]

........cant be far away from launching

Doubt it, they still using 30 Mbps

I see the Hispasat test are now using 15 Mbps, I haven't got a UHD TV, so can't compare that with the current promos on Astra etc.

Wouldn't be surprised if Sly try 15Mbps at some point

PS. Reckon the launch will coincide with the atart of the new footie season, Sly have done a deal with Sony for UHD movies, which are believed to be available round about September time, so they'll want a fair amount of boxes out there so peeps can buy the movies, using the footie as the launch vehicle would achieve this

[3tv]

Sony are 1 of the few studio's finishing off @ 4k while others are still finishing in 2k and upscaling. Concentrating on selling the benefits of HDR

Doubt it, they still using 30 Mbps

I see the Hispasat test are now using 15 Mbps, I haven't got a UHD TV, so can't compare that with the current promos on Astra etc.

Wouldn't be surprised if Sly try 15Mbps at some point

PS. Reckon the launch will coincide with the atart of the new footie season, Sly have done a deal with Sony for UHD movies, which are believed to be available round about September time, so they'll want a fair amount of boxes out there so peeps can buy the movies, using the footie as the launch vehicle would achieve this

[Dave5118]

Uh ohhhh.......... Sly UHD trial now gone to 98% 'null' packet, somethings afoot

Edit: Back to normal again now, so no change as yet.

[Dave5118]

Sky seem to be showing the Walsall v Barnsley playoff tonight according to the EPG info, and confirmed by a feed.

Sky Sports UHD Feed for FL72 playoff FTA!

Quad mode - 4 x 1080p

Eutelsat 12 West A 12.5W 12543 Horizontal 33330 16APSK 3/4 DVB-S2 4:2:2

Program 1/1 UHD2 UL
Program 1/2 UHD2 UR
Program 1/3 UHD2 LL
Program 1/4 UHD2 LR



Only done 1 screenshot, as it's impossible for me to get 4 at the same time :(

[3tv]

Older Samsung 4k tv's could construct the quad hd stream into a uhd image in real time, don't know if the newer 1's can. Being 16apsk and 4.2.2 might also be a non starter.

avc encoded Quad HD is still the prefared UHD feed delievery method. Most is NS3 modulated so gets missed. :(

[Dave5118]

Hmmm. .... didn't know that about Samsung TVs. I guess using 16apsk and 4:2:2 would rule out anybody else watching it Also there was no audio, still thought they would have scrambled it though.

There have been a couple of 'test' transmissions of Opera/theatre lately using H265, I reckon it will take time for H265 encoders to find their way to flyaways just yet.

FYI, each feed was about 22Mbs, making a total of nearly 90Mbps for full video

[3tv]

Hmmm. .... didn't know that about Samsung TVs. I guess using 16apsk and 4:2:2 would rule out anybody else watching it Also there was no audio, still thought they would have scrambled it though.

There have been a couple of 'test' transmissions of Opera/theatre lately using H265, I reckon it will take time for H265 encoders to find their way to flyaways just yet.

FYI, each feed was about 22Mbs, making a total of nearly 90Mbps for full video

4 x 20mbit avc will destroy the 25-30mbit hevc stream. You could probably demux all 4 quadrants and use avisynth to piece them together. TSreader to FFMPEG to avisynth, would be cpu intensive though.

was the audio dolby e? normally only 1 of the quadrants will contain an audio track.

The First UHD demo by Eutelsat was quad HD. Samsung Tv's could play this.

[CokeAddict]

Sky seem to be showing the Walsall v Barnsley playoff tonight according to the EPG info, and confirmed by a feed.

I wonder if when the broadcasters do start there 4k services, if they will broadcast in 4:2:2 and 16 or 32APSK

[3tv]

I would have though they would use dvb-s2x to squeeze more into the limited bandwidth. HEVC 10bit is the norm.

[CokeAddict]

I would have though they would use dvb-s2x to squeeze more into the limited bandwidth. HEVC 10bit is the norm.

You are probably right, I was just thinking if they used 4:2:2 it would give them some extra security as very few boxes can open 4:2:2 and thats before any cs or other hacks required.

[3tv]

You are probably right, I was just thinking if they used 4:2:2 it would give them some extra security as very few boxes can open 4:2:2 and thats before any cs or other hacks required.

4.2.2 and 10bit is supported in HEVC, shame they didn't add it to avc. I think the demo loop on on 13e is 4.2.2 10 bit hevc.

[Dave5118]

was the audio dolby e? normally only 1 of the quadrants will contain an audio track.

You could be right, think i checked all of them, but can't be sure.

[Dave5118]

Now seems to have moved to 11758H 29500 QPSK 8/9 DVB-S2 with ID 9006

Bit rate is now around 40Mbps