Dark Knight and TrueHD

**canthackit** · 03-02-2009, 03:17 PM

Guy's and gals

all my other TrueHD and DTS Master Audio Blu-Ray disc's play these the 2 fore mentioned audio's and they are automaticaly detected by my Amp.

But on Dark Knight there's no option to select the appropiate Audio in this case it should be DD TrueHD but there's only DD 5.1, so it dosn't do what it says on the tin.

suggestions please:respect-010:

regards: canthackit

**applematt** · 03-02-2009, 03:47 PM

Whats the AMP Model ?

Should be a INFO Select Button on your AMP to Display info

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I have a Toshiba HD DVD player and have a TRUEHD HD DVD but does not Display on AMP as TRUEHD .... Dunno why all this is such hard work!

**canthackit** · 03-02-2009, 05:29 PM

got a Onkyo 806 Amp and a Panasonic BD30 player, as i say all i generaly need to do is whack the disc in and the Onk detects the sound format and displays it... but strangely TrueHD an Master Audio are not selectable manualy.

On the Dark Knight case it says DD and DD TrueHD but go into the disc setup menu all there is a button that say's Audio that when clicking on it it either lights or goes out, tried both and still only DD 5.1.

thats me snookered.

regards: canthackit

**canthackit** · 03-02-2009, 07:08 PM

Ok got it sorted after studying manuals and onscreen menus DD TrueHD isn't listed under Audio

it's listed under ............wait for it yes!!! languages of course your supposed to know this, then having found it you have to select it manualy:woohoo-022: 'cos the Onk wont detect it burying away there:reddevil:

regards: canthackit

**applematt** · 03-02-2009, 08:17 PM

You what?!

I have a ONYKO 606 -- Where is it again?

**canthackit** · 03-02-2009, 08:21 PM

go into the disc menu then Languages on the left of the menu 2nd one down you'll see DD TrueHD listed just ok it.

the Onk will then detect it, and away you go.

regards: canthackit

**applematt** · 03-02-2009, 08:32 PM

go into the disc menu then Languages on the left of the menu 2nd one down you'll see DD TrueHD listed just ok it.

...On your AMP ? I think you mean your BlueRay player

**canthackit** · 03-02-2009, 08:38 PM

Errmmmmm

i'm getting a bit confused here

let me start from the begining put disc in BD player when disc runs select disc menu on there select languages you'll see DD TrueHD listed select it then exit, if you Onk is the same as my Onk

when the movie starts it will detect the Audio.:woot-035:

regards: canthackit

**applematt** · 03-02-2009, 08:46 PM

Good point your Source ie Blue ~Ray player needs to output TrueHD! Just playing with my Toshiba HD DVD.

Can you tell any difference between TRUEHD + 5.1 etc ????

Found it Well done!

But on AMP Comes up with DTS in RED not TRUEHD ... any ideas?

**bonovox** · 03-02-2009, 10:16 PM

I was going to ask about the differences in audio quality between DD5.1 and TRUEHD + 5.1. I know DD 5.1 is compressed but to the ear is there a big difference or much difference?

**canthackit** · 04-02-2009, 05:51 PM

@ applemat

now you have stumped me mate.

atm i can think of is did you let the movie? because the disc runs through various sound formats before the movie actualy starts.

@ bonovox

in a word "no" mate i can't tell any diiference...i think as has been mentioned before to notice the true lossless audio differencies in sound quality you need to have real high end eqiupement THX certified etc.... my setup aint that bad, but i'd like others to comment to see their opinions.

regards: canthackit

**bonovox** · 04-02-2009, 06:36 PM

Thanks for the answer. I think dd5.1 will do for me for the time being.

**canthackit** · 04-02-2009, 07:34 PM

yes mate i've just upgraded my amp to the Onkyo 806 previously had a Yamaha A2 thinking that the newer amps would be better, but the A2 drove my speakers a lot better than the Onk, and they are only 100 watt as opposed the the 806 which is supposed to be rated at 140 watts, but the Onk beats it on sound placement....i suppose what you loose on the swings etc.

regards: canthackit

**applematt** · 04-02-2009, 08:08 PM

Put a Dolby True HD HD DVD into my Player to Play via HDMI to the ONKYO 606 amp --
- Yes thanks Canthackits for working out you need to SELECT TRueHD from the Audio Menu on your BlueRay/HD DVD player. BUT Problem is that on the AMP -- TRUEHD is not shown!

So I went into R ic h e r Sounds today and was told its a known Bug

So not to worry!

@ bonovox

The Sound on a Dolby TrueHD Disc via a 7.1 AMP like the 606 is this :

TrueHD seems quiter more subtle (than Dolby 5.1) and much more intelligent and is amazing at creating a sound Blanket /arena - Watched only Batman Begins so far but its there creating amazing sound across all speakers. But its not like say watching SD then having HD, no no!

Normal Dolby 5.1 is good enough -- I dunno if its worth the hundreds of pound for the upgrade - As I didnt have a AMP - I went for it - -Have some 5.1 Tonnoy speakers with it -- it really rocks.

**bonovox** · 04-02-2009, 10:26 PM

Thanks for the info guys. Yeah had my dolby digital 5.1 amp since 1997 and its a yamaha. Cost me £700 back then. Don't think I'm looking to upgrade for the time being unless I am forced to.

**applematt** · 05-02-2009, 12:53 AM

Yea -- I still have a Denon first generation Home Cinema Amp that cost £1,000 but stopped encoding Dolby Sound.

This new upgrade is interesting -- WIth 8 SPeakers its going to Rock!

I setup a mate today with a 10 year old Yamaha Dolby Amp for use with Sky movies -- He is very happy tonight! Just Added a £149 set of Tannoy 5.1 Speakers.

**canthackit** · 06-02-2009, 06:45 PM

@ applematt

does that mean TrueHD is just not displayed but the Amp still decodes it?

if it is and they new about it it'd be helpfull if they told us up front.

and yes! i agree with your findings on the HD sound formats.

@bonovox

yeah to fund my purchase of the onkyo i sold my Yamaha A2 originaly a £1000 Amp i paid £750 for it just sold it for £50 perfect working order, slightly begining to regret it

regards: canthackit

**applematt** · 07-02-2009, 12:08 PM

There is a bug on the 606 Amps(may apply to the 806) that dont disply the Icon TRueHD.

Do you get 'Bitstream,' on your blueray player as a audio option -- if so select that.