hi all finally got the picons working with help from you guys ,ive been using the 28east picons from @mmcmedia,but i am now trying to use picons for the rest of the satellites Picons by Nephilim,but cannot get these to work,just wondered if these are both compatable files for the vu+duo2 as they are both in the same dreambox section,after getting the @mmcmedia ones to work i deleted those from the memory stick and picon cache and extracted the Nephilim ones into the picon folder i had just used ,but they did not work,also is there software to make your own