ch4 and ch5 are free to air , so no card required
if you wanted the scrambled version of ch5 then the card and box seem to have to match since the newest updates , whereas earlier this year the card would update and work in any box
boxes not updated seem unaffected by the above , but it seems that it is going to matter
but to answer the question , ch4 and ch5 can be had free to air so no card required
c4HD needs an updated card , and a suitable cam or suitable box to work , as it is still scrambled
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