Hi!
Can anyone give me instruction on how to edit BISS in the Softcams?
I have no clue what all the things mean, like frequenzy, odd even, provider,...
Currently no BISS channels are opening with the latest softcam posted here. I have Atlantic Bird 1 on 12,5 West, and FOX Serbia as well as FOX Germany should open, which they dont.
It seems BISS isnt working well with the Vantage or maybe I just dont know how to dea lwith it.
Can anyone help me?
angles
hi angels
the key biss dont work with softcam
you can put this only manualy.
BISS lie wrong place in Softcam so it donīt work. They shall to last in keyeditor and work fine in Vantage. Example:
Mediaguard
Viaccess
CryptoWorks
Nagravision
Irbeto
Conax
BISS
I have try to move BISS to last in Keyeditor v1.09, but i donīt know how...
Do something here can talk how we can move differently codesystem in Keyeditor?
I managed to get it working without softcam, just with the latest firmware from here.
Its easy once you know the "how" It took me some hours to figure it out.
I'll give it try with softcam on the box if I find some time soon.
So if anyone needs help just post here.
angles
Itīs easy to put Biss-key manualy from EMU-firmware and work fine. But i know to they can work with softcam if Biss are last in keylist. It take many hours to put all key so i will have a softcam ready...
Itīs problem with software Keyeditor because they have Biss on a wrong place in keylist. I need help to correct software Keyeditor so Biss are last. I test to many methods, but it work not...
Hello again,
I tried a little with BISS keys and didn't really have any idea what I was doing. Just grappling in the dark, really.
I'd be interested in opening groups like MCT or ***view if they can be opened with BISS, so if anybody knows about that feel free to guide me!
Thanks a lot.
As far as I know, they are not open at the moment.
ok, thanks, Angles.Originally Posted by angles
Played around with available softcams and have not found any that work with the biss channels
To
Remote input
Fox ger 11188 h 5722 at 12.5 west
Provider 000005
Type key8
Index 01
Key ********
Do not post keys
Freq 011188
VideoPID 0308
To find videoPID on channel click info button
Important
Also input frequency that shows up on your reciever
For the required channel
Change INDEX to 02
Add videoPID of nat geo ger same frequency
Id like to know how to input DCWs as i have not figured that out
Last edited by nosmo king; 20-10-2008 at 12:09 PM.
I had the same success with DCW as I did with BISS. ie not much.
Manually entering BISS keys seemed too complex and fiddly for me. I assume that the softcam will do it automatically if it can. As Jedin said above, maybe the softcam needs to be re-arranged?
From what I can tell from reading random bits and pieces on the net, the Vantage (all models?) don't support editing DCW yet.
Last edited by mynameisEarl; 19-10-2008 at 10:35 PM.
Sure, Vantage donīt support to DCW, but it can work sometimes if we have luck... I have get to some DCW-keys as work with Vantage, but it donīt happen often.
I want to help from some with Keyeditor because software need to change with codesystem-list.
Last edited by Jedin; 20-10-2008 at 03:24 AM.
By looking at the file,seem very easy to do using a hex editor,and some knowledge about ascii.
The key lines look like this
10270039D2260007FF9F24AA6D70922A2 C2052545649
Which breaks down to
10 looks like the header start
27 seem to be the flag for biss keys ( 8 bytes keys)
0039D2 seem to be provider id (can also be the channel SID)
2600 seem to be CA id
07 odd control word ( 06 even control word)
FF not sure,but is always the same for biss keys
9F24AA6D70922A2C biss key (control word)
20 separator,end of key
52545649 this is the name or the provider in ascii (RTVI)
So,the idea is to replace in that line the keys for the channels you use,the provider id/SID , the odd or even key flag ( 06 and 07 for even and odd), and the name of the channnel ( you can use any program that convert between hex and ascii,the lenght is not important.
Some of you guys seem to know that the biss keys should be last in the file,then the logical step is to insert the new lines at the end of all keys.
I would be careful to exceed the file size ,so,the idea is to replace bytes in the file,rather than add bytes to it.
In any case,you can check the octagon key file maker,which use as similar layout for the key file,and learn from it.
My box didn;t get here yet,so cannot test any file,otherwise I would make the file and post it myself.
This should work the same for constant control words,the only difference would be you have to make two lines the same,but different key flag,one 06 and one 07 ( even and odd dcw).
Biss channels would also work using this two lines,one 06 and one 07.
Last edited by kebien; 20-10-2008 at 05:02 AM.
whats currently open with DCW?
I have 19,2° 13° 28° and 12,5°W
angles
I have found a solution how we can have Biss on last place in keylist.
It work great with many Biss-keys on my Vantage-reciever.
1. Save keydata from EMU-firmware to USB-stick.
2. Open software Octagon Keyeditor v4.2.0
3. Open saved Keydata from USB-stick in "File" --> "Softcam from a file"
4. Click on "Online Update" --> "Softcam.Key from the web" and click OK.
5. Save new keydata "File" --> "Save as" to a another filename in USB-stick.
6. Put USB-stick in reciever and update.
Jedin
Well done
will try that later
Thanks m8
Hello again Jedin,
I don't have a USB port on my receiver.
Can I/we open a softcam release in the key editor, do the online update as you described, then re-save the softcam and upload that to the receiver using Winup26?
Or does the data we use for this process have to be derived from the receiver itself / its modifed firmware?
I've tried what I've described there, and the Edit Keys menu in the receiver now seems to have more in it, but I don't know how to check where the BISS keys are in the general order. In the Edit Keys menu, they are still in the middle if that means anything.
Also, which channels can I try to see if it's worked?
Kebien,
Thanks for your detailed thoughts too.
Thanks again,
Lee
Last edited by mynameisEarl; 21-10-2008 at 12:44 AM.
Just to add,
I've noticed doing what I described above caused many open channels to close.
I've now restored them using the last softcam from the 15th. I'm also using the new patched firmware which was released earlier today, if that makes any significant difference to anything.
By the way, BBC Prime in the Polsat group seems to have been 'closed' for me for a few days now. BBC Entertainment, however, is still open. The music channel W9 also seems to have 'closed' recently.
Last edited by mynameisEarl; 21-10-2008 at 01:10 AM.
Yes, if you have a correct keydata with last Biss in keylist so you can follow my instruction and do it with Winup26. All Vantage-reciever work best when Biss are last in keylist... (Only modifed firmware)
Online update keys in Octagon Keyeditor update to all keys in softcam so we need not do very job.. Itīs only Rai Africa on 13E Hotbird as need update with remote...
TET on Sirius 5 East, F:11766 H, SR:27500 Feq:3/4 are a great place to test Biss-key..
Mtv/nick wallon
@ 33 east
11.139 v 4883
BBC Prime use to only Viaccess 2.5 now and are not hacked.....BBC Prime are not with in Polsat group and itīs from TPS-package...
W9 use to Viaccess 2.5/3.0 and Mediaguard 2 are not hacked too..
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