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How to: Sats in Arc Order on Menu - Advanced Users
How to: Sats in Arc Order on Menu - Advanced Users
Again Compliments of " Mumbles "
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This How to is to cure the sat order problem on the channel menu.
You need to do an auto setup to define sat positions before doing this.
The trouble with auto search is:- when you press ok for the menu - the sats at the top
are all in a messy order. Some people like me, want them in the order of the arc.
This explains how to do this, and is for advanced users.
The first thing is to understand why they are in the wrong order. The reason is simple.
If you were to find a new sat now - when you press the ok button for the menu - it will
have placed it - to the right hand side of the last sat you found.
For example: If you only had one sat tuned in - say Astra 19 - when you bring the
channel menu up that is all there will be. If You now go and tune in 42 east, that
will appear to the right hand side of Astra 19. And so on etc......
So the answer is obvious. You start at 42 east - and manually add the sats one at a
time in arc order.
To do this involves a Master Reset. Before you start - you need to write down your
east and west limits. Then, the counter position of every sat that you have.
Park The sat on Hotbird and Master Reset.
Set your limits and store. Then, using your notes, move the dish manually
to 42 east - channel or tp search on *******. You will now have have Tuksat
on your channel menus. Next do Helias and that will appear in the correct
place to the right of ******* on the channel menu. And so on...until you get to 45 west.
Problems. You need to do this on a good day when you can get a good signal from the
weaker sats. If you can't get a signal on 23 east for example, a sat with NO CHANNELS will
not go in the menu. You have to get something in there for the menu position to be
maintained.
I tricked mine on sats with no signal. Hope this is easy to understand.
So, you start at 42 east, then do 39, 36, 28, 26.
Then you can't get 23 east. You now have to select 23 east in the advance
search menu - then manually move it back to the 26 east position.
One or two digits different on the counter would be good, just to show a difference.
Enter a user defined frequency for an actual 'live channel' that is showing already
on 26 east. That will now come up as a channel on 23 east - and place it in the right
order on the menu. You can manually move this later to it's correct position.
A little tedius perhaps, but once it's done....great!
When you have finished - get back to the positioner 2 menu, and just enter your
east - middle - west sats, then store.
Another way maybe, I haven't tried this but should work in getting the menu in arc order.
Delete 42 east from the database in the sat edit function. That's gone for ever now.
REMAKE it as a new sat and search it. That is now the last sat you found.
Then do the same for 39 east - and that should place 39 east to the right of the 42 east.
Etc..etc..
Or it may work if:
You just delete all the channnels on 42 east, and research.
And so on... Sats with no channels seem to drop out of the menu - whether that
sat comes back in the same or a different place. I not sure.
Don't want to mess mine up trying this.:-))
Enjoy.
Cheers
Andrew
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Tips and Tricks...ST Models.
To get into EMU..
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Press MENU...... then RED - GREEN - BLUE then OK.
How to find STB S/W Version..
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menu>ca set-up>irdeto>ok loader status>ok
on this panel on the left hand side you can see
the download date, that will show when you last downloaded software
and should tell you if you have the latest patch.
How to ADD CHANNELS/TRANSPONDER and PIDS..
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Here are Manhattan's Instructions for the audio PID's on version 88.
GUIDE
1 Press MENU and go to INSTALL and select Channel search.
2 Go to Search Mode and select Manual All.
3 Go to TP Data and press OK. TP Data list will open. Select the TP of the channel to be
tuned.
4 In the same TP go to PID section (below FEC) and enter the new PID’s for Video,
Audio and PCR for the required channel.
5 Go to STORE and press OK. After storing TP Data list will close.
6 Go to START and press OK. After tuning and storing the channel, it will open for
viewing. This channel name will be ‘unnamed service’ and will be added at the end
of the channel list for that satellite.
Ok, if you know what the audio PID is of course in the first place, although not
difficult to guess - you may need to do this several times.
All that was needed really, was something in the menu that allows you to simply
type in the audio PID needed while on the channel. So, this mod sounds like a
long winded 'bodge' job.
The TP list update could have been left off, thus, avoiding the master reset, a
simple patch would have sufficed. IMO, having to do a master reset so I can
occasionally alter an audio PID is not worth it. The need to alter or look for
another PID is not that often.
In number 4 of the instructions, they say - enter the new audio, video PID's and
PCR for the channel required. If we're needing all new figures here,
the blind search should find this anyway. Usually the video PID and PCR is the
same as the channel that you just want to change the audio on. So you will have
to remember to enter those figures as well it appears.
If you don't quite understand why you need to search for other audio PID's,
here's why:
The channel is transmitted with a Programme Map Table - PMT - this map or
database - includes all the channel details and options you see on your screen.
It also includes Audio 1 and Audio 2 details, which you can select when using the
language button. Sometimes the Audio 2 details (ENG) are not included in the PMT
table, so no option for the audio shows up. The audio stream is quite likely to
be there though, just that you cannot tune to it. Changing the audio PID to
something not included in the info on your screen (or not in the PMT) - will bring
up any other language if is being broadcast, but not mentioned in your channel menus.
Tuning the channel in by entering details as Manhattan descibe above - means you
will be looking at a whole 'new' channel version of the one you want. As this is
now a 'custom' channel - there is no PMT for it, and it will show as Un-named Service.
Enjoy.
Cheers
Andrew
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