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    HD DVD viewing on a PC

    To play Blu-ray Disc or HD DVD titles on a computer through a digital DVI or HDsupports HDCP.
    * Display is HDCP reaMI interface, the following 3 criteria need to be satisfied:

    * Graphics card is HDCP-compliant.


    Software


    VISTA ive tested and now working well with Codec's + DivX

    Code:
    www.filehippo.com/download_klite_codec_pack/
    Something like CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra (looks like the true HD player only just out -15thJune07)

    Hardware

    The Xbox 360 HD DVD drive looks good for XP users -- If your a owner of XBOX - dual use
    Cant find any more drives?!
    HDMI MotherboardAsus M2A-VM - www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/107300/asus-m2avm.html

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    Cyberlink have a cool software for PC BD/HD Advisor > Compatibility so you can see if your PC can play back HD DVD's.

    --> _http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/support/bdhd_support/diagnosis.jsp

    Your need a a fast PC ie Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 for example.

    iNTERNAL HD DVD Drive ?? I cant find one right now -- XBOX 360 HD DVD Drive is now hacked and you can use on a PC -- region free as well.

    Wiki reading --> __http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD

    LINKS:
    __www.hdtvblogger.com/
    __www.videohelp.com/hd
    __www.dvdforum.org/hddvd-tech.htm
    __www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/hddvd/default.aspx
    __www.k-rad.hk/?p=156 How to d/l HD TV ->__ www.k-rad.hk/?p=153
    __www.highdefdigest.com/

    NVIDIA PureVideo HD NVIDIA PureVideo™ HD driver with support for the following features:
    Seems the new Nvidia 8600GTS Boards loves HD and is only £100 iit runs with VISTA -- Nice.
    * Hardware acceleration of H.264, VC-1 and MPEG-2 HD movie formats.
    Check your Nvidia card for HD :- www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html

    ___www.nzone.co.uk/object/nzone_downloads_winxp_2k_32bit_93 .81_uk.html
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    General info about HD -- __http://perfecthidef.com/
    A Ripper's Foot N0te:
    High Definition X264 when only the best is good enough!
    Use FFDShow for the best quality (IF you have a fast machine)
    Use CoreAVC for fast performance on slower machines
    Recommended free players are MediaPlayerClassic and DIVX player
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    I am Looking to join hdbits.org for a long time, Invite from someone will be greatly appreciated

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    I am Looking to join hdbits.org for a long time, Invite from someone will be greatly appreciated

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    Hi M8

    I just went to that site and this is the message posted there "We are a private site and require an invite to join. Please do not request to be invited on non-invite forums, thanks."

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    Spent last 10 day's finding the best software to View a HD-Rip.

    Ive now only tested via the MS Vista 32bit - As long you have the correct Codec's see below MS Media Player plays well.

    A nice touch in Vista is the Media Centre - Nice way to collect all your Movies - Music - Picture for Vieing on TV or Monitor.

    Also use DivX 6 for Vista - this is easier on the Cpu and more slick.
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    Found this from mvgroup

    Playing Videos in the PC

    Some explanations about codecs

    Most of the releases in HD you'll find are encoded with DivX6, because they officially give support to HD content in high resolutions. But for what I've seen there is no much difference in encoding a 720p or 1080p in DivX6 or XviD when we talk about bitrates and quality. Both codecs don't use the new AVC (Advanced Video Coding) MPEG-4 profiles (also known as H.264), so encoding quality is the same than XviD.

    When playing those HD videos, I tested different codecs, both XviD and DivX, plus Nero Digital, and I get better results with the XviD codec. XviD codec can play every MPEG-4 video in simple profile no matter what codec you used when encoding. Why?

    MPEG-4 is a standart, made by the Motion Picture Elite Group (MPEG). Those guys are really who have developed all the technology behind video coding, the problem is that his job finished when published the technical information about the standart and its technology. They didn't made software for decoding nor encoding. Here is where DivX and XviD (and much more other codecs) play its role. They are software made by engineers by comercial purposes (DivX), or just for create an open source codec made by all the community (XviD). Both give MPEG-4 compatible content, and the main differents between both are in the characteristics they use from the MPEG-4 technology.

    Which codecs get

    Video

    Trust me the best codec for playing MPEG-4 content you can get is this: XviD (much more fluid and more options).

    Get the latest stable build from Koepi here:
    Code:
    http://www.koepi.org/xvid.shtml
    I've noted that the colors are more real if u configure the Output Colorspace at RGB32, specially dark zones will be much more detailed. Configure it in the Decoder Options in the startmenu after installing. If some movie gives you aspect ratio problems, you can set the AR to 16:9.

    Audio

    For the AC3 audio files, you can get the latest AC3 Filter:
    Code:
    http://ac3filter.sourceforge.net
    Subtitles

    Get VobSub:
    Code:
     http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Subtitles/VobSub_2.23.exe
    Ensure the sub file is in the same directory than the avi file and they have the same name, or it could not work.
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    Does you monitor support HDCP because you need both

    Yeah I like Zoom Player but I find The Core Media player has better sound even though I use ac3 filter for both, got mine
    hooked up to an Audigy sound card and some Logitech Z-5500 amazing sound considering you can pick them up for
    under 200


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    Does you monitor support HDCP because you need both --

    i have a HP L2045w --the L2045w's DVI input is not HDCP

    NO :( Just made a call and sold my Screen! Any HDCP you know off?

    So the quality is not 100% as myscreen is not HDCP?

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    Doesn't effect the quality HDCP is just another content protection system to stop the copying of hi def content

    If you want to watch a HD DVD or Blu Ray on your PC your graphics card and monitor have to support HDCP otherwise
    you cant watch it at all

    Ripped HD content doesn't need HDCP at all


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    Theres another one that Calibrators use from Digital Video Essentials which you might find somewhere

    http://www.videoessentials.com/

    Theres also a freeware version but for the life of me I cant remember what its called


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    Been testing watching Blue-RAy + HD DVD rip's on XP + VISTA for the last 7 weeks.

    Vista is geared towards HD in a big way if you also have a high end Nvidia graphics card ie the 8800 or 8600GTS your in luck as both run the NVIDIA PureVideo HD off the GPU thus taking the strain off the PC.

    Your need a DUal COre CPU above 2.4Mhz and 1GB ram. Ive tested most Software like VLC,windows Media player/media centre ,zoom and have found the latest DivX player 6.4.3 works the best.

    Make sure your running the latest Codecs:
    Code:
    http://www.filehippo.com/download_klite_codec_pack/

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    Just read AVIVO vs. Purevideo HD: What You Need to Know about High-Definition Video at Tom's Hardware - Put's its more in focus - and covers the problems ive been having! Like Nvidia only releasing HD drivers for Vista for the 8600 boards. Im also running the llatest version of powerDVD - but its not as good as DivX player which is far the best on my system - playing without any delays/clicks.

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2007/0...revideo_hd_uk/

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    Updated: Problem fixed
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    Quite a few of me movies come out like this -- any ideas?

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    High Definition Video Playback for DUMMIES
    Code:
    http://hdbits.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

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    my 8800 gts card plays bluray fine

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    Post Latest K-Lite Codec Pack

    HTML Code:
    http://filehippo.com/download_klite_codec_pack/

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    Need to update this - Ive found the COREAVC Codec very good.
    Code:
    http://www.coreavc.com

    The CoreCodec CoreAVC High Definition H.264 video codec is based on the MPEG-4 Part 10 standard and is one of the codecs used in Blu-ray and in HD-DVD. AVC / H.264 is the next-generation standard for video, and CoreAVC™ is being recognized as being the world's fastest H.264 software video decoder.

    The efficiency of CoreAVC in 'software' is often compared to be faster than other solutions that try to rely on 'hardware' to increase playback performance of H.264 video.

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