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    info re:- zone 2 dishes

    hello all

    well , after the recent high winds misaligning my motorised triax dish I decided a revamp was in order

    so item 1 on the agenda was fitting a dish for 30 west at the rear of my house. I have some new raven zone 2 60cm dishes ( 60cm high and 80cm wide ) so I fitted one of these to my rear wall , then fitted a skyware lnb which is a type that has a 40mm collar and allows you to change the skew as its totally opposite to the skew needed for sky

    the fitting was all straightforward and I used my tm1500ci to align it as the channels were already working. I can honestly say the signal level is great and its worked flawlessly for over a week with my samsung 9500 viaci with latest mahdi emu v4.3 , easy to change the keys too using my samsung remote control!!!!

    I also added a 4 way diseqc switch and have a feed from the quad lnb on my sly 43cm raven dish so currently getting 2 sats , 28 east and 30 west


    my next job is to change the 43cm raven dish on sly for a 70cm raven dish that holds 3 lnbs , with hotbird , astra and astra2 running from a 4 way diseqc switch at the front of the house , and a separate feed from the quad lnb on sly for the sly digibox


    once this project is finished it will give me 13e , 19e , 28e and 30w from just 2 fixed raven dishes , and a sly feed too


    and then it will be time to try realigning my stab motor and triax 1.1m dish to get some of the other sats , or I will fix it in place and use a triax multi lnb 4 way multiblock for 16e , 10e , 5e and 1w


    so if anyone wants to know are these zone 2 dishes any good , the answer is yes , and if you get the lnb,s that have a 40mm collar , or the quad lnbs with 40mm collar , you can use them on various sats including 30w because you can easily alter the skew

    I am also going to test one of these raven zone 2 dishes with a monoblock and see what hotbird and astra are like for signal strength and quality etc

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    They work great with monoblocks on Astra and Hotbird m8,but youll find the triax slotted LNB holder better as the flimsy ones used with quads dont hold the monoblock to good as the weight makes them sway in the wind and astra loses signal.

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    thanks m8

    for the non-30 west dish :-

    I used a multiblock 4 way for a gilb*rtini and adapted the zone 2 raven by drilling the end for the lnb holder and adding some extra arm length from another raven dish (now 15 inches long instead of about 13 inches ) and set it up on 42e , 28e , 19e and 13e

    see here for more details and pictures

    http://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=60102

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    Sorry to bring this thread back to life but did any you guys use the triax multi lnb holder with the zone2 dish.

    I have to have a revamp here, I have to many dishes so I am looking at getting 28.0e,19.0e and 13.0e on one dish and taking two dishes down.

    Cheers

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    not a zone 2 but yes on a triax 80cm one

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    Cheers, think I'll get the triax 64cm dish and use the multi holder on that.

    Just hope 60cm will be OK for 28.0e,19.0e and 13.0e.

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    should be ok , but an 80cm definitely works

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    i know i always use the triax 88cm with the multi block, signal levels are really high, 13 prime, then 19 and finally 28 on the far end, remember not to attach the bar as the instructions state, if you do you will not get 28e

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    I live in zone 2 as you will gather from my pen name. I'm looking for a bit of advice on the most suitable Zone 2 dish for me given what equipment I have and what I'm trying to achieve.
    I have the following:
    S*y HD Box
    TM5402 box
    S*y fixed dish
    S*y Octo Lnb
    Multimedia PC

    Once I have everything setup the way I want it I would like to move forward and look at some of the nearby sats and see if there is any channels that are of interest to me. It is possible that longer term I may want to look at some of the more distant sats so I was thinking that it might be best to move to a motorised 1.2 meter dish so it will satisfy my future needs if I decide to go down that road.

    Because of where I live, I don't think I will have any issues with planning and neighbourly complaints. What would members suggest the best dish setup is for me. I've been told to go for a 'better dish' but that didn't help as I'm not sure what spec I'm looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebridean View Post
    I live in zone 2 as you will gather from my pen name. I'm looking for a bit of advice on the most suitable Zone 2 dish for me given what equipment I have and what I'm trying to achieve.
    I have the following:
    S*y HD Box
    TM5402 box
    S*y fixed dish
    S*y Octo Lnb
    Multimedia PC

    Once I have everything setup the way I want it I would like to move forward and look at some of the nearby sats and see if there is any channels that are of interest to me. It is possible that longer term I may want to look at some of the more distant sats so I was thinking that it might be best to move to a motorised 1.2 meter dish so it will satisfy my future needs if I decide to go down that road.

    Because of where I live, I don't think I will have any issues with planning and neighbourly complaints. What would members suggest the best dish setup is for me. I've been told to go for a 'better dish' but that didn't help as I'm not sure what spec I'm looking for.
    a "zone 2" dish is normally a 59cm dish made by raven and supplied by sly when you take out a subscription in scotland and northern ireland
    a "zone 1" dish is a 39 to 42cm dish used in england and wales, its smaller than a zone 2 as we get a greater signal

    so I would assume you have a zone 2 living in scotland, meaning you have a specialised sly dish of around 59cm, usually oval

    the point about dishes is generally thus "the bigger the better"

    now assuming you go motorised, and want diseqc control as well, you would tend to buy a diseqc motor and generally they can take a load of a dish that is up to say 1.1 metres, so usually something like a triax td110. but there are other makers of dishes like andrews and gilbertini and others, different dish sizes too

    or you can use a polar mount , vbox to control the actuator, and go much larger, usually on a ground mount , so say 1.8 metres or 2.1 metres etc (planning permission usually required)

    so lets assume you can have 2 dishes, one being a zone 2 sly dish already installed, you would look at a dish of say 1 metre , and a suitable motor like a darkmotor or technomate motor, and an inverto ultra black lnb (or similar lnb). this would be fine for 28.2e, but also give good choices on the other satellites you may receive in your location, subject to no trees or walls or buildings causing obstructions

    add on to that shopping list T-K brackets for wall mounting (or a ground mount), scaffold pole etc and you have the basis for a good system, and is what I use although I am in england, not in scotland or its islands

    so a "better dish" is a non-sly dish , of say 80cm to 110cm in diameter, and an inverto ultra black lnb, motorised being preferable to fixed

    but if you wished to push the boat out with a much larger dish, you need specialist help (and a vbox, and an actuator etc as well)

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