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    help section

    hi all,
    here is/will be a repository of humax help files, it is a closed thread so requests for texts/tutorial's should be made in the main forum, if the post is made @voith i might see it, and if its in my power or i can find it, i will put it up here, or another mod might be able to supply it, also anything any mod decides to be useful will be put in here
    hope they help
    voith

    HELP, i have lost most of my database of help stuff, any help would be grateful
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    humax error codes

    hi all,
    here is the humax error codes taken directly from the HCSA site
    E-HC/bC Incorrect header block(CRC-16) The software seems damaged while you receive from web site or e-mail.Pls receive the software again and try to download

    E-dC Incorrect data block(CRC-16) The software seems damaged while you receive from web site or e-mail.Pls receive the software again and try to download

    E-Hn/bF Invalid HDF version This error can be occured when you attempt to download Non-Superset STB software to Superset or Vice-Versa.Pls check the STB model and the software

    E-Id Invalid system ID This error can be occured when you attempt to download F1 software to F1-CI. Pls check the STB model and the software


    E-AC Incorrect application CRC-32 Download latest version of application sw. If it doesn't make it,the flash memory can be thought to be defected


    E-ut UART RX/TX time out There is communication problem between source and target

    1) Check whether the S/W is compressed or not and Check whether you use the proper download tool for the software
    2) Reduce the download speed and try to download again
    3) STB main power Off/On and try to download again
    4) Reset the PC and try to download again


    E-Ad Invalid address Humax made the hdf file with wrong address.Pls notify this error to us and wait until we release the proper software.


    E-Ao Invalid offset address for upload(Odd offset) There was a mistake when we made hdf file from binary file.Pls let us know immediately and wait new release version


    E-Ft Flash program time out The flash memory in STB seems damaged. Pls try to download one more time. If you fail agian,send us back to replace the flash memory device


    E-It/Et EEPROM program time out The EEPROM in STB seems damaged.Pls try to download one more time.If you fail again,replace the EEPROM device


    E-FE Fail compare after flash write Flash memory is damaged.Return the main board(CPU Board)


    E-HF Invalid HDF Format It means that the file you try to download is not a valid HDF format. The file could be damaged in which case you should try downloading it from the Humax web site again. Also please check the file extension is HDF. Also make sure you are using the correct download tool - Wdn4oak+. It can be also occurred when there is some problem on cable, data of PC and loader.


    E-Fn Invalid flash device Flash memory is defected Need to change the flash memory so Pls return the Main Board


    E-AS Incorrect application s Check the software version and STB hardware specification

    not mentioned is

    err rA with three flashing dots, this is usually solved by uploading a new channel settings file

    hope it helps
    voith
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    springclean (spring clean) humax 5400

    hi all,
    here is the txt of the springclean
    the text goes like this, it is written assuming you are using thor as your 0 position or due south bird, if you are using another sat for this then substitute that sat for thor and make the amendments where needed

    How to spring clean your humax 5400

    For Humax 5400 Z patched
    H/W oak 1&11 2.1
    S/W Hic 1.05.00+
    Device driver version Hic 1.05.00+
    S/W last update 4 mar 2002
    Loader version H 2.08
    sys id 0016.0600

    tuxonhumax ToH 3+

    files needed.

    HU 15 (on this date) uploader for HDF files
    HIC 1.05.00 hdf (or relevent hdf for your model)
    HIC delete all channels hdf
    your saved settings file, or the latest pet123, original or my modified.
    humbox 4.1 or your own favorite editor
    tux on humax +cam ToH 3+ (on this date)


    The idea is to put your humax 5400 back to its original out of the box state ready for the new patch,
    and new settings.
    WARNING

    THIS WILL PUT THE STB TO ORIGINAL SOFTWARE PRE PATCH, AND ANTENNA POSITIONS TO ORIGINAL POSITIONS.

    LOADING ORIGINAL SOFTWARE

    first start the HU 15 uploader program
    make sure the com port is correct and speed is 115200
    click on the tab marked open HDF file
    navigate to where your original software is and click on open, you will get checked ok message
    (providing you have got your original software from humax's home site) click on ok
    click on upload (pc to stb) waiting for humax connection banner will appear
    turn stb to standby using your handset
    now turn back on using handset
    the banner will start uploading, wait until you see END appear in the panel on your stb then
    turn stb on at the on button on the stb.
    To check your upload press
    menu
    installation
    status
    stb status
    and you will see

    H/W oak 1&11 2.1
    S/W Hic 1.05.00
    Device driver version Hic 1.05.00
    S/W last update 4 mar 2002
    Loader version H 2.08
    sys id 0016.0600

    when you change satellites there will be a red banner
    and you will only get FTA or irdeto channels.

    RESET PRESTORED POSITIONS

    change to a thor channel (this is not required but helps for other reasons)
    menu
    installation
    service searching
    as this is the original software you need to put in the pin 0000
    manual search
    ok on antenna alternative
    diseqc command change to installer
    up to sat name and change to reference
    motor control change to goto,ok. wait for dish to alter(1deg) this is a chance to
    visually check if you wish by climbing the ladder.
    (also if you are lucky you may still barely get the signal from thor that you were on)
    now change motor control to reset, you will get a warning all will be recalculated, press ok.
    back up to sat name change back to the sat you were on, if thor intelsat 707
    diseqc command change to user, ok
    exit exit exit exit

    Ok now everything is back to original, and now we can start getting it back together. and if your
    setup is ok you will still be getting a signal on thor.

    First find a spare channel on your TV, and tune it to CH 38 this is a precaution in case you lose
    the picture when deleting the channels.

    DELETING ALL CHANNELS.

    Now this action deletes all channels but does not delete the prestored positions, hence the above.

    first start the HU 15 uploader program
    click on the tab marked open HDF file
    navigate to where you put the delete all channels hdf and click on open, you will get file unknown message
    (providing you are using the one supplied with this txt it will be ok) click on ok
    click on upload (pc to stb) waiting for humax connection banner will appear
    turn stb to standby using your handset
    now turn back on using handset
    the banner will start uploading, wait until you see END appear in the panel on your stb then
    turn stb on at the on button on the stb.
    there will be three (3) green dots flashing on the stb panel.
    you might also at this point see a blank screen, change your TV to the channel where you tuned Ch 38
    on the screen you will see a warning that no services are registered, it is not needed to press ok, (this
    is only for people who wish to find there own services)

    NOW TO LOAD YOUR SETTINGS FILE.

    open your favorite editor, in this case Humbox 4.1
    stb used humax 5400z, with nullmodem cable, program humbox 4.1 and either setting
    files pet123 from www.humaxsettings.nl or my modified pet123 for h to h mounts, which i
    post on this site.

    download either settings file.from the web and save.

    open humbox,click on edit, options.
    click on model,
    change model for your own, and change system id to yours, this is found on the humax
    by menu,intallation,status,stb status. you cannot do this at this stage so make sure you have this
    written down before you start the spring clean.
    click on port tab, check the correct port is marked.
    change anything else you wish
    when satisfied click on ok.

    now click on the menu tab.
    if in England, in the uhf tuning section change pal to pal i, or whichever pal you have.
    change anything else you wish.

    now to download to the stb.


    Go to file, open, and navigate to the new settings file, select and click on open
    if you are using my modified pet123 it has most of the prestored positions input
    turn your stb to standby.
    click on the little dish icon (download to humax)
    the waiting for connection , banner appears
    turn stb on, and progress is shown on screen and tv.

    HERE IS WHERE SOMETIMES IT GOES PEAR SHAPED, IF YOU SEE ERROR SYS ID, GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING AND REDO THE BIT ON OPTIONS.


    when finished END will show on the stb press the standby button on the stb.
    you will now need to back to the TV channel you normally use
    you should now have the new channels and be able to get your antennas.

    Now to check and fine tune your new setup.

    You checked in passing in the beginning that thor was ok
    so for a check go to a channel on thor and
    menu
    installation
    service searching (still have to enter the pin 0000)
    manual search
    ok on antenna alternative
    check that diseqc command mode is in user
    movement press either left or right untl you have a good signal, when you have a good bottom line
    signal, then go to
    motor control and change to store, THEN PRESS OK
    remember how much and in which direction you moved, this will be needed for all other sats
    exit exit exit exit exit
    now we work down the rest of the sats

    ok
    yellow
    yellow
    and work up and down the sat list
    ignoring amos unless you actually use it
    choose each one
    ok
    ok on a channel name
    identify hopefully by the name on screen
    then fine tune as above if needed
    please read the other txt files included in the zip for more info
    one thing to note,
    jeager superjack dg120 owners when looking for seasat at 35.5E (if it is programmed as mine)
    you will need to tune in installer mode and go all the way from 38.5W because of an hardware error.
    all other sats will be on the button or very near, keeping in mind the constant noted above.
    in the txt included with this will be a list describing how and why and in which direction to tune the
    odd sat that does not show.

    Now to patch your humax.
    i would suggest you follow SHADOWS post how to patch your humax.,but it is no harder than putting
    in the original software




    regards
    voith
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    Quick Guide to whom confused (CW , Dsr 9500 Emu 5.3, etc ..)

    as posted by kokokoko

    Hi m8,

    Just noticed that most of members here are confused since Humax able to decode CW & publishing New DSR 9500 EMU Ed53 , new keys files , etc....

    the main point here is CW keys embadded into the Humax Emu (part of the whole batch ) not into the ram editor ( Catone2.6) where we can edit & change keys .
    so when u switch to one of the CW channels the Humax Emu go and call the Keys from the emu not from the ram ediotor (as no place 4 CW keys).

    that is mean that we can't add,delete, edit keys from ram editor and new keys files have no conection with the emu .

    to overcome this Problem we have to have the following :

    1- New DSR 9500 EMU Ed53 which have places for CW keys
    2- keys files with a new Format to deal with new DSR 9500 EMU Ed53
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    3- New Hot-Toh ram editor (Catone2.7) to accept CW keys(manualy) & keys coming from New DSR 9500 EMU Ed53 or any other keys programs
    4- New Hot-Toh Firmeware (Emu) to change the way calling Cw keys to be from ram editor not from the Emu itself .
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    That is why New DSR 9500 EMU Ed53 Editor said (( Key-space Offset is changed from this version
    so it can NOT be used with Older Ram-Bin/Firmware ))

    Up till now we have New DSR 9500 EMU Ed53 & keys files with a new Format

    Still waiting for New Hot-Toh ram editor (Catone2.7) &
    New Hot-Toh Firmeware

    Hope it might help

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    how to fix the psu for humax receivers..

    hi all,
    as posted by shadows,and modified by grumps
    how to fix the psu for humax receivers..
    originally posted by Grumps.....:

    To those that may be interested this is a list of parts that will fix a burnt out power supply unit for a Humax IRCI5400
    (Rev: 1.0 but all should be the same) and will save you a lot of money.

    IT IS DANGEROUS TO PLAY WITH ANYTHING ELECTRIC IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING
    only attempt this if you have some electronics experience and soldering skills.List of parts you will need: = Use 105 degree caps not 85
    C09 1000uF 16v
    C10 1000uF 16v
    C13 1000uF 25v
    C14 1000uF 25v
    C15 470uF 25v
    C16 470uF 25v
    C17 220uF 50v
    C18 220uF 50v
    C19 100uF 50v
    C20 100uF 50v
    C21 1uF 50v
    R21 100 Ohm You can use a 0.25w but I used a 0.6w
    ZD3 30v Zener Diode 1.3w

    As a last resort... ring 02891 824964 & ask for donald ...he`ll sort u out ...Humax N.I... ...

    rgds-grumps

    addendum by from coalman

    ref. power supply fix posted by grumps
    Hi Voith could i also suggest replacing r2 a 180k 2watt resistor at the high voltage end of the pcb it gets quite hot and over the years the soldered joint deteriorates (well it did in mine) ending in a dry joint. If you do replace it leave plenty of wire on to keep the heat away from the pcb. i also replaced zd3 30v zener & r21 100r both burnt out



    here also is a diagram for the psu found by marco
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    for original 5400 software

    hi all,
    thanks to jaythesnake007, here is the HSCA site that carries at this time the original software for 5400

    w.w.w.humaxdigital.com/deutsch

    you will need to register, but it seems if you are already registered in the english hsca site this will carry across
    regards
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    Humax 5400 loaders - the do's and dont's of loaders.

    hi all,
    as suggested by siegfried, a tidy up.


    Humax 5400 loaders - the do's and dont's of loaders.

    Information supplied by carnage, humi-user and Siegfried.

    There are 4 different loaders for the 5400, the System ID and loader version depending on the hardware in your STB:-

    L1.3x = Sys ID 0016.0000 = OAK-I board with MK2 tuner
    L2.0x = Sys ID 0016.0200 = OAK-II board with MK2 tuner
    H1.3x = Sys ID 0016.0400 = OAK-I board with MK3 tuner
    H2.0x = Sys ID 0016.0600 = OAK-II board with MK3 tuner

    The latest versions are L1.37, L2.08, H1.37, and H2.08 .
    The 5400Z usually has the one loader H2.08 .

    It is not necessary to upload a loader to patch a receiver, but it is recommended to first return it to it's original state by uploading the official Humax firmware. If you need to reload the original Humax firmware (the latest version is HIC10500-0x.hdf) make sure that you load the correct version for your loader/sys id:-

    L1.37 = ..-00.hdf
    L2.08 = ..-02.hdf
    H1.37 = ..-04.hdf
    H2.08 = ..-06.hdf

    Note that all ToH patches are independent of the loader and work with all loader versions, and do not contain a loader.


    WARNING
    None of these loaders is better or worse than the others and they are NOT repeat NOT interchangeable !!!
    A receiver originally with an H1.37 loader would be destroyed by uploading an H2.08 loader !!!
    A receiver originally with an L1.37 loader wouldn't work with an H1.37 loader !!!

    Also, the H2.19 loader is only for Humax 5400Z+ STB's with the SD1278 LVA-3 tuner and Sys ID 0016.0601 . It is not compatible with the Humax 5400 or 5400Z so do NOT try to update those STB's to the H2.19 loader.

    You have been WARNED.

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    PIN Reset

    as posted by TNT.

    PIN Reset
    Turn on humax and go to [Menu > Installation > Status > STB Status] then press

    Red - Green - Yellow - Blue - White - 0 (zero)

    If you do it right you will see this message

    " Pin code has been reset "


    TNT

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    c-band and the 5400

    hi all,
    here as posted by harrysat

    Hi, I use the Humax 5400 among others (Nokia 9500 and Echostar 3000) for C-band and it works fine.

    Just choose in the Menu the right LO (local oscilator) frequency (5150 MHz) and search with the right frequency, Polarization, SR and FEC parameters, you can use the following method:

    I suggest that you make a separate C-band Antena Alternative by Menu/Installation/Service Searching/ Antenna Setting, then choose the Antenna Alternative number (from 1 to 32 whatever you like and don't youse for others dishes) by right or left-clicking on the control. Then a row lower you can specify the name of this Antenna Alternative by right clicking to "User defined" and write for instance: "1,8 m C-band dish".

    You can choose (for the Antenna alternative (1,8 m C-band dish) that you have chosen to receive C-band channels on) the right LO frequency by: Menu/Installation/Service Searching/ Antenna Setting/LNB frequency and change "Universal" to "5150". Look also at the right parameters when you use a 12/0V switch or Diseqc switch or motor.

    You can search by: Menu/Installation/Service Searching/Advanced Search/

    The PMC table does not change anything because there does not exist PMC tables with parameters for C-band channels. So if you are not satisfied with the audio preselect language or anything else, you have to change it yourself with a PMC editor.

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    how to recover from a a/v output problem

    hi all,
    as posted by TNT, an easy way to recover from a video output mess up

    Hi

    Turn your humax off then on and press Blue Button, Down Arrow, ok Twice




    TNT

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    dsr 9500 and capkeys 1.3

    ATTENTION, I am fairly sure this is within the rules, but please do not ban me without checking
    attention, capkeys 1.3 not working at this date of posting
    hi all,
    ok, against my better judgement i am at it again, i have been banging on about the update facility in dsr9500 5. well, yes it works, but only if the url you/we are using carries the keys you want, other wise it all goes **** up, so here is my other method of doing it.
    programs needed

    dsr 9500 5.+

    key capturer

    first open up dsr
    tick empty ram, and write this to your stb,
    then go menu, toh, parser, ram editor, and just check you have no keys showing
    now load the very best of bin's, (and i do not take the micky)
    i am talking Mach1. RAM.bin into dsr9500 5+

    now start key capturer
    click on get providers
    now if we are looking for tps, then in the provider list choose tps
    click on capture keys, make sure you give it access to the web.
    after a few seconds it will show the new keys with the date issued

    in dsr9500
    choose the correct provider in this case viaccess 007c00
    now for line 3 its just a case of deleting the keys in that line, and copy from the key capturer, and pasting into line 3

    for line 13, tick the +0x10 via 2 key box, and line 13 will show, then copy and paste as before
    now its only a case of writing the keys to the stb
    after this turn off by the remote, and then turn on.

    please note, that you still need a recent bin loaded before you can input keys,
    tps = line 3 and 13
    polsat = line 8 and 9



    HOT 7.5

    D+ 4101
    keys 00 split between lines 00 and 01
    keys 01 split between lines 02 and 03

    TPS 7C00
    still split between lines 03 and 13

    POLSAT 7101
    keys 00 split between lines 00 and 01
    keys 01 split between lines 02 and 03

    TV CABO (KAKA)4901
    keys 00 split between lines 00 and 01
    keys 01 split between lines 02 and 03

    MEDIAPARK 1911
    key 0 line 00
    key 1 line 01

    hope this helps
    voith
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    Humax power supply docs.

    Humax power supply docs as posted by seigfreid

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    ''How-to'' input and delete biss keys using the remote controll

    ''How-to'' input and delete biss keys using the remote controll

    as posted by sat_rrstm.

    and updated

    ''How-to'' input and delete biss keys using the remote controll
    for versions from ToH3.4_HoT9.4 and later ones.


    by sat_rrstm.
    We usually get a biss ch. codes in this form:
    NBA TV .
    Index: 1FFA .
    HEX key: 18 39 6D EC 81 A6 25 C0 (8 sets,16 digits)(this key is not active).
    From version ToH3.4_HoT9.4 and later on,first we take the ch's frequency 11892
    and turn in heximal form : 2E74
    We need now the ch-ID in its heximal form.Ch-ID of NBA is 4 and turns to 0004
    and we need the last byte only,04.
    The last we need is its PMT PID which is 32 and turns to 0020 and we need only
    the last byte,20.
    So the first 8 digits of the biss key-line are : 2E74 0420
    Out of the 8 key-sets we skip the 4th and the 8th ones,so here is what is left:
    18 39 6D 81 A6 25,and here is the complete key-line : 2E74042018396D81A625.
    When we have found DCW of a not-biss channel,like ***View or MCT channels,
    it looks like this:B 36B2 00 FD6C6DD6430E68B92DAF6B47CCC2A432 :*** View PLUS(this
    key is not active)
    In this case we have to create two lines that have the first 8 digits similar.
    These 8 digits are created in the same way as above with NBA TV and so for the
    *** View PLUS they are : 3048 B292 .
    Now we get the 32-digited key we found and split it in two 16-digited parts
    (we cut it in the middle):
    So the key FD6C6DD6430E68B92DAF6B47CCC2A432 becomes :
    FD6C6D(D6)430E68(B9)
    2DAF6B(47)CCC2A4(32)
    Now we add the channel's 8 digits in front of each created part and we skip
    the digits in the brackets and we get the two lines we need:
    3048 B292 FD6C6D430E68
    3048 B292 2DAF6BCCC2A4.
    Using the remote we go to : Menu --> TOH --> Parser --> Ram Editor -->OK
    Press P+ or P- till you see BISS-FIXED DCW screen,or press only the 'musical note'
    button (for radio ch's)
    Go to an empty line : 00000000000000000000>Press OK. Insert the 20 digits-->
    Press OK.We exit all menus and then press STANDBY on HUMAX to store.
    If we wish to delete a biss key line,first we flash it and then we press
    STANDBY button on the remote instantly 4-5 times.
    If we'd like to delete 2 key lines at the same time after flashing the first one
    we keep pressed almost any button,except 'recall' button,for about 4-5 seconds!
    Last edited by voith driver; 07-09-2007 at 10:25 PM.

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    how to use dsr9500 5.6cw

    hi all,

    Originally Posted by sat_rrstm

    When you downloaded DSR9500_EMU_Ed56_CW,did you notice if all files that should
    be in there,were there? The whole pack of this software includes the following :
    1: DSR 9500 EMU Ed56_CW,the main exe
    2: Editor_ReadMe,a text file
    3: Microsoft_Script_Control,a zip file
    4: MSINET,a zip file
    5:Mswinsck,a zip file.
    First you have to unzip all 3 zipped files and then,getting into the new 3 folders,
    you have to install them in your PC,by double-clicking on the them and getting the
    successful installation-messages.
    Then you have to run the main exe and do the following settings:
    button : ? --> Settings --> Humax Def --> one left click.
    Now again: ? --> Settings --> Com Port --> Com Port 1 --> one left click.
    Now : ? --> Settings --> FW Check --> Off --> one left click.
    Last : ? --> Settings --> Verify from Box --> On --> one left click.
    Now you have created a new NotePad script called ''Settings'',you can see it in
    the same folder with all the rest files.
    After you have checked all these,try to load the latest key bin to your DSR exe.
    Turn on Humax and tune it to a FTA channel and press ''Write'' button on DSR exe.
    Now you get this message:
    ''Do You want to write already loaded file ?''.
    Answering ''Yes'' makes the exe to start the loading and the verification,giving
    this message when finished:
    ''Written file Verified OK!''.
    Now you can turn Hummy off,using STANDBY button on the box,
    to save key-bin correctly.

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    definitive tps how to

    hi all,
    as found by Marco a guide to loading the tps.hdf

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    firmware update issue, and solution

    as posted by ZAD,
    firmware update issue
    hi guys its banging head off the wall time for me!!!

    i was given a 5400 with some issues mainly psu.
    i have repaired this part and discovered the 5400 has no firmware on it as im getting the error code that corresponds to it so........

    i have tried to upload new firmware however i have been getting the a-ut error code (firmware tx rx problem) so i have dropped the connection speed right down to the slowest possible and it starts off uploading the software but then crashes out!

    any suggestions guys?
    i have changed the crystal next to the com port and also went over the joints to check for drys but still the problem persists..

    please help my head is going to go through the wall soon lol


    solution,

    ok problem solved and what a bi*ch!!!

    the surface mount rs232 controller had went down

    this was on a oak 2 board

    the part was as follows

    ic u340
    part number adm239mjr

    if anyone else ever has this issue and your ok working with surface mount components you may have to go down this road, however afer all the 5400's i have repaired this is the first time i have came across this issue so it may be an idea to elimated all other possible causes before going down the route i had to.

    well anyways all sorted now if voith or any other mod wants to add this perticular issue to the stickies help section and the component in question!

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    guide to editing the pcm file

    hi all,
    to start with, mr dudes excellent guide to edit your pcm file in word form converted by a member whose name escapes me thanks m8
    regards
    voith

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    showtime key input

    hi all,
    as posted by marco how/where to input keys for showtime

    go in the ram editor press blue on remote
    go to the provider 1 before orf
    leave the provider 000000
    then enter daily keys on lines

    showtime

    lines 06 & 16 key 00
    lines 07 & 17 key 01

    art

    lines 08 & 18 key 00
    lines 09 & 19 key 01

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    loading order

    hi all,
    if you have any doubts about the order of loading, try this

    patch

    using hdfsmart and making sure all the modules are ticked on the left, or use hu15

    pcm

    if needed but always try without, when you load a full patch, the new pcm gets loaded as well.

    channel settings

    using hnfsmart or humbox

    change caid to card+emu
    change stb time to gmt +2 for tps

    bin
    using dsr9500 9.6

    when you load the bin, do a verify as this will tell you if the bin has gone in
    if this fails (and you will know in a couple of secs) and you have skipped the channel settings, then reload your channel settings as this cleans the bin out and allows you to load fresh

    watch telly

    hope this helps
    voith
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    how to edit using hnfsmart

    hi all,

    this is written to move channels from one file to another using HNFSMART using the latest pet123 files, but the principle is the same for others.

    to get 45E channels

    first open file modified pet123+h to h mounts190707.hnf in hnfsmart

    then open file toh_45east-43west-Humax-30-21.hnf in another hnfsmart

    line up both and reduce them to a manageable size to work on screen

    then go to provider in both editors and highlight 45E

    one will have dummy channel in the other will have more channels using the one with the channels and making sure you are still highlighting the correct sat, go to

    edit
    select
    all
    it will all go blue then back to
    edit
    copy


    then cross over to the other editor, making sure that one is also highlighting the correct sat, go

    edit
    paste (paste will only be available if you have correctly copied from the last)

    now depending on how many channels you are moving i would give it some time just in case its not all transferred before you do anything else

    when you are happy its finished moving then look at the bottom of the editor screen
    you will see how many tv channels and how many radio channels you have, the aim is to reduce so that you have below 4000 in total, so its just a case of right click and delete if you are dumping 1 channel at a time, or its select all and right click and delete service, if you are doing it by provider


    once you are happy save the file

    i hope this helps
    voith

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