Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 75

Thread: BADR 4 26 east reception

  1. #21
    V.I.P
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    542
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked 189 Times in 100 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Mickgleeds;9h64289
    I get 49% on 11996H and don't receive anything at all 12130V. I have noticed I can increase the SNR by a percentage points on 11996H by changing the latitude from 1.609 to 1.101.

    I quite enjoy tweaking antennas to get the best out of them but satellite dish's, especially motorised ones are an whole new ball game for me.

    Just out of interest I am just south of you in wakefield with a 1m funke dish and technomate gold lnb. solo 4k receiver and on 11996v bbc arabia I am getting 56% and that is at midday when the signal always seem less. I am getting nothing on dubai sports 1.

  2. #22
    Cool Dude holmroad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    6,295
    Thanks
    4,176
    Thanked 1,955 Times in 1,266 Posts
    I'm between Gainsborough and Doncaster in North Lincs with 1.1M dish TM5402HD M3 & currently getting Sky News Arabia & CNBC Arabia 11996H 70% (no V sorry!!) at 1448hrs BST! and 12130V Dubai Sports 1 & 4 at 37%!

  3. #23
    Verified Registered User Mobley2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    226
    Thanks
    151
    Thanked 196 Times in 114 Posts
    Very simply. If the motor drives the Dish, as the dish moves around the arc, the dish and the Lnb will be at an angle relative to the vertical position,
    and thus the skew is determined.

    regards mobley2

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Mobley2 For This Useful Post:

    gbmitie (01-06-2017)

  5. #24
    Super Moderator cosworth4x4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    7,558
    Thanks
    3,284
    Thanked 4,314 Times in 2,047 Posts
    Dont forget there are 4 birds at this location , not saying we will get them all in the uk , but on a few channels i can tweek the dish (2 clicks)from 30/60% i go back to the previous channel and that signal has dropped.

    so a slightly smaller dish may give you zero signal on some channels if you honed in on one sat.

  6. #25
    Verified Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    342
    Thanks
    69
    Thanked 218 Times in 130 Posts
    Hi I dont think some people understand how motors work. Yes the motor does move dish from sat to sat but it cannot find sats if you dont line it up yourself to begin with..the LNB skew is there to fine tune in the signals for maximum strength ..the motor cannot alter the skew once its set. you can lower or raise the dish or move it slightly left or right accordingly. The trick is to find a few satellites to begin with and then tweak it slightly on the sats you dont find. You find that everything will fall into place sooner or later, Regards

  7. #26
    Verified Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    342
    Thanks
    69
    Thanked 218 Times in 130 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by cosworth4x4 View Post
    Dont forget there are 4 birds at this location , not saying we will get them all in the uk , but on a few channels i can tweek the dish (2 clicks)from 30/60% i go back to the previous channel and that signal has dropped.

    so a slightly smaller dish may give you zero signal on some channels if you honed in on one sat.
    Hi if by clicking the dish you get better quality but then lose it it means you have not saved the position if using USALS you cannot store positions but you can with 1.2 method. Regards

  8. #27
    Super Moderator cosworth4x4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    7,558
    Thanks
    3,284
    Thanked 4,314 Times in 2,047 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by KARABANGA View Post
    Hi if by clicking the dish you get better quality but then lose it it means you have not saved the position if using USALS you cannot store positions but you can with 1.2 method. Regards
    Dont use usals got a proper dish with a real motor and as i said not all channels come from the same bird, so not at 100% the same location.

  9. #28
    Super Moderator cosworth4x4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    7,558
    Thanks
    3,284
    Thanked 4,314 Times in 2,047 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by KARABANGA View Post
    Hi I dont think some people understand how motors work. Yes the motor does move dish from sat to sat but it cannot find sats if you dont line it up yourself to begin with..the LNB skew is there to fine tune in the signals for maximum strength ..the motor cannot alter the skew once its set. you can lower or raise the dish or move it slightly left or right accordingly. The trick is to find a few satellites to begin with and then tweak it slightly on the sats you dont find. You find that everything will fall into place sooner or later, Regards
    as for the skew if youre running a motorised dish , unless you want to go up the ladder to adjust every position (old style with polariser exempt),you have to set it mediocre best way i can explain it central sat for best signal prob going to be ruffly 12/6 oclock then it skews as the dish turns.

  10. #29
    Verified Registered User Mobley2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    226
    Thanks
    151
    Thanked 196 Times in 114 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by cosworth4x4 View Post
    Dont use usals got a proper dish with a real motor and as i said not all channels come from the same bird, so not at 100% the same location.
    totally agree with you cosworth 4x4. most peeps in the UK/ Ireland, will only be able to receive Badr 4 signals, unless they have large dishes, what I find intriguing is that I am able to
    receive some transponders ie. 12130V, in Ireland, which peeps in the UK are not, on basically the same size dish, and other ones with weaker signal. Looking at the footprint for this bird it would seem
    that it goes almost vertical up through the centre of Ireland, and then across the Irish sea through ***bria over to Yorkshire. I know these footprints are subject to all sorts of influence, and also interpretation.
    My apologies for being long winded.

    regards mobley2

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to Mobley2 For This Useful Post:

    cosworth4x4 (23-04-2017)

  12. #30
    Verified Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    342
    Thanks
    69
    Thanked 218 Times in 130 Posts
    Hi..Whatever frequencies you pick up in Ireland should also be picked up in the UK ..logic tells you that the UK is nearer to the Middle East than Ireland. Problem with 26 east is that its too close to 28.2 (Sky UK) satellite so dish has to be fine tuned correctly. Satellite footprints are not always accurate as beams can change from region to region. ie ******* at 42 east you get west beam in UK but not the east beam- where live fotball is. In London with a 1m dish you can pick up about 300 channels on 26 east and around 700 channels on 7west. Regards

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to KARABANGA For This Useful Post:

    holmroad (23-04-2017)

  14. #31
    V.I.P
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    2,186
    Thanks
    96
    Thanked 194 Times in 155 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by KARABANGA View Post
    Hi.. It baffles me that people make comments regarding motors ..I have installed dozens of motors over the years and its so easy i do it with my eyes closed.. How can a motor skew the LNB?? If the LNB is set incorrectly then you need to change with your fingers and not the motor...there are other factors to consider like dish angles and elevation ,dish size and if using USALS or diseqc 1.2 to move the dish... Regards
    yes sky dish with eyes closed we could have a competition who could do it quickest with a blindfold first price a turnip only ground floor for health and safety lol

  15. #32
    Cool Dude
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    2,419
    Thanks
    850
    Thanked 1,340 Times in 845 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Mobley2 View Post
    totally agree with you cosworth 4x4. most peeps in the UK/ Ireland, will only be able to receive Badr 4 signals, unless they have large dishes, what I find intriguing is that I am able to
    receive some transponders ie. 12130V, in Ireland, which peeps in the UK are not, on basically the same size dish, and other ones with weaker signal. Looking at the footprint for this bird it would seem
    that it goes almost vertical up through the centre of Ireland, and then across the Irish sea through ***bria over to Yorkshire. I know these footprints are subject to all sorts of influence, and also interpretation.
    My apologies for being long winded.

    regards mobley2

    12130v here @ 8.5db north east coast on a 1.1 triax

  16. #33
    Cool Dude holmroad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    6,295
    Thanks
    4,176
    Thanked 1,955 Times in 1,266 Posts
    [QUOTE=KARABANGA;964361]Hi..Whatever frequencies you pick up in Ireland should also be picked up in the UK ..logic tells you that the UK is nearer to the Middle East than Ireland. Problem with 26 east is that its too close to 28.2 (Sky UK) satellite so dish has to be fine tuned correctly. Satellite footprints are not always accurate as beams can change from region to region. ie ******* at 42 east you get west beam in UK but not the east beam

    True mate, get a lot of 'cross satellite interference' from 28E when blind scanning!

  17. #34
    Verified Registered User Mobley2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    226
    Thanks
    151
    Thanked 196 Times in 114 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by 3tv View Post
    12130v here @ 8.5db north east coast on a 1.1 triax
    Do you know what that would be as regards S & Q numbers ?

    regards mobley2

  18. #35
    Super Moderator cosworth4x4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    7,558
    Thanks
    3,284
    Thanked 4,314 Times in 2,047 Posts
    @ KARABANGA as i dont think you got my post about lnb skew on a motorised dish here are 2 photos to help you , 1 is .8 west the other 39 east , you will see how much the lnb has skewed as the dish has turned following the arc.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  19. The Following User Says Thank You to cosworth4x4 For This Useful Post:

    KARABANGA (24-04-2017)

  20. #36
    V.I.P
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    542
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked 189 Times in 100 Posts
    Not having a signal on 12130 has got me motivated, getting the bigger dish out at the moment to see if I can get a siganl. 1.25m going up in west yorkshire.

  21. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to kegnkiwi For This Useful Post:

    cosworth4x4 (23-04-2017), Mobley2 (23-04-2017)

  22. #37
    V.I.P
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    2,186
    Thanks
    96
    Thanked 194 Times in 155 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by kegnkiwi View Post
    Not having a signal on 12130 has got me motivated, getting the bigger dish out at the moment to see if I can get a siganl. 1.25m going up in west yorkshire.
    up north signal is weaker than the south on 26e the only exception would be the Nordic sats better signal up north good luck with the big guns but 1.25m not that big is it the gibertini 1.25m dish supposed to be good quality

  23. #38
    Verified Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    296
    Thanks
    48
    Thanked 164 Times in 81 Posts
    Has anybody tried to move the satellite setting from 26 to 25.8 or 26.2 and see if you get a stronger signal, if you do then keep going to 25.6 or 26.4 ?

    I changed mine from 26 to 25.8 then 25.6 and got a stronger signal.

    Try it, if no good, then go back to 26.

  24. #39
    V.I.P
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    2,186
    Thanks
    96
    Thanked 194 Times in 155 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by dostoy View Post
    Has anybody tried to move the satellite setting from 26 to 25.8 or 26.2 and see if you get a stronger signal, if you do then keep going to 25.6 or 26.4 ?

    I changed mine from 26 to 25.8 then 25.6 and got a stronger signal.

    Try it, if no good, then go back to 26.
    i personally don't use diseqc motors 36v is the only way for heavy dishes with magnetic polariser skew can be set from the receiver the old manhattan 550 st still going strong used to pickup 68e at 1 time now don't bother so much with feedhunting also now look at the KA side for new channels strong fta signal here at 9e for the rte irish channels at 21.185ghz

  25. #40
    Super Moderator cosworth4x4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    7,558
    Thanks
    3,284
    Thanked 4,314 Times in 2,047 Posts
    Not wanting to change the subject too far ive still got my ka band lnb in the garage tried it out a good few years back to see if i could get them channels from 9 east , too my surprise i could in neath ,been meaning to set it up as a second lnb as there is a lot more up there now , but time has flown by and not got round to it ,

    i need to replace to pole this year as its getting very rusty so maybe ill add it the same time when i get the scaffolding in.

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Badr @ 26 East
    By Aldo in forum Dish Discussions
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 11-01-2014, 08:54 AM
  2. badr 26 east and nilesat 7 west dish size help
    By mack in forum Dish Discussions
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-03-2012, 10:06 PM
  3. Sky Deutschland Hd package on 23.5 East Reception
    By catseye in forum Dish Discussions
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 15-10-2009, 10:14 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •