micka thanks for you help mate, what i have decided to do is go back to the blackhole 2.1.0.1 and put a new boot loader on it and also a new skin on it as well, it now has a different feel to it. its a clone i have had it for 2 years now , you first helped me with it, i also have a dreambox 500hd and fairly recently a dreambox 800 se with open pli on both of them also clones.


regards