3G setting

[hugh jardon]

Hi if I take my box to a caravan with dish and select 3G and connect my phone will it play scrambled channels if I have subscription


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[blackdevil]

Use a 3G dongle of your provider.Put the SIM in dongle and dongle to box's usb port.
Then from receiver's menu select 3G Network and your provider.

[satpaul]

Or set your phone up as a wifi source and use that if you have 3G on phone

[hugh jardon]

I'll try me phone tonight and see if it works. It's got 4g.
If this works it makes this box and the people who work on the software absolutely amazing


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[hugh jardon]

Never worked. Connect iphone but never picked connection up. Never mind


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[geoffh]

Read this

MiFi settings for access to the internet for a stb

Hi Guys could do with a bit of help on this.
I am trying to set up a sat system for my caravan down in Devon and have purchased a MiFi Huawei E5332. My stb is an Ice S3550HDCCI. I have got the propsed system (for the caravan) all up and running at home stb+tv+MiFi+laptop. I have good WiFi connection and a good connection to the internet via the laptop with good speed (3G). I can associate the stb to the Mifi device but cannot get it to open any channels, its almost like the stb is not recognising the host servers.
I have no problems with this set up when using the home network everything opens ok
Any Ideas? thx in advance.

Hi Again,
Originally posted the above in the General Satellite Chat section (wrong place sorry).
Anyway having read some of the posts in this section I now understand better whats important with respect to making C/S work via a 3g network.

Just returned from Devon having done some tests with my MiFi unit and T-Mobile provider with some interesting results.
1) was able to stream a footy match no problems at all
2) Download info via the internet, google search etc, no problems
3) Receive email but not send it via MS Outlook
4) Could not get the C/S to work at all

Borrowed my mates Orange sim and could do all of the above plus C/S (allbeit very fragmented)

So begs the question why?

Now back home I've read some of the posts in this section I did some comparitive tests to find out what Ping and Jitter results I was getting with the various providers/internet connection methods.

Results below;

Home broadband;
ISP Plusnet
Ping 18 msec
Jitter 1 msec
Upload 0.70 Mbps
Download 18.46 Mbps

MiFi
ISP T-Mobile (EE network)
Ping 339 msec
Jitter 292 msec
Upload 1.00 Mbps
Download 1.08 Mbps

Unfortunately I do not have the Orange sim to do the same tests but clearly its Ping and Jitter that are key to getting good C/S.

Does anybody know what Ping and Jitter threshold figures are required for good C/S?

I do not have a choice of networks down in Devon its EE or nothing;
Orange, T-Mobile and Virgin all use the EE network so I do have a choice of providers but does puzzle me why there should be a difference in performance between providers on the same network.
Any Ideas?



Interesting development!
Having taken some advice from a MiFi expert provider I decided to try a different ISP (their recomendation).
I was told that the reason I'm having such difficulty was not the ping or jitter rate (notoriously bad for 3g) but more the fact that most ISP's do not have a fixed IP address associated with their 3g sims. One exception being Andrews and Arnold (never heard of them) anyway I thought I would give it a go and bingo! I can happily C/S. The ping rates are typically around the 400 ms and jitter at 100 ms. This company use the 3 network which is good where I live but the system has to be checked out in north Devon, so will do a final review after my next visit to the van


Footnote to this thread.
Down in Devon and trying out the system.
Success, good C/S activity, some fragmentation but very watchable. Happy Bunny.
Conection detaila;
Andrews and Arnold IP simm only
Three network, 3g access
Fixed IP address, upload speed 2.17 mg download speed 4.9nmg.
Ping 95, jitter 10.
The key though for good C/S is the fixed IP

[murph]

Hi
While I work away ,I have been using a TP Link TL MR3420 wireless router with a Huawei Hi Link E3256 Dongle inserted for use in my caravan I have great connection to my Spider box 600 and use my laptop ,Wi-Fi for Phone and even connection to PlayStation, in Loughborough area on 3 network even though 3 said this dongle would not work in a router. Quite amazing what you can achieve today with some of this gear.

[satpaul]

It does work on Iphone have done it myself

[hugh jardon]

I plugged my iphone in the USB in spiderbox. turned off wifi on it and selected 3G. Nothing


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[stokesparkie]

U need to tether the phone as a wifi hotspot


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[hugh jardon]

1. How do u tether phone as a wifi hotspot
2. if there's no wifi how does the 4G work

[satpaul]

You go to settings on iPhone and setup personal hotspot then turn on your Spiderbox will see WiFi put key in and connect
Have done demo at someone who had no WiFi he was impressed

[hugh jardon]

I'll try later and report back. Just hope it works with EE 4g


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[blackdevil]

What satpaul advised you is correct.
Just follow instructions.
It can be also done with any android phone.

[hugh jardon]

Yes it works easy if you have a wifi connection.
It does not work when turn wifi off on phone to enable 4g.
Therefore the 3G facility on box does not work. Not sure if it works with a dongle though


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[satpaul]

forget 3g or 4g as long as you have a 3g or 4g conection on phone just follow my simply instructions

[hugh jardon]

Okay got it working. You have to have wifi turned on on your phone for it to work. I turned my modem off so new only had 4g connecton. Plugged in and selected wifi on spiderbox. Bang scrambled channels worked. Also when I took USB lead out it still worked.
Therefore this box is unbelievable and the fellas who do the software are just fantastic


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[manic01]

The box was always good, it was your good self not following the instructions given.

[geoffh]

This can and does work (in a fashion) using your mobile as a hotspot but does depend alot on your location reception and isp if you want good reliable connections to servers you would be best to get a bespoke MiFi unit and one that takes an external arial also an ISP with a fixed IP address (read post 6)