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    well the one tier my card has is B9E2 2012-08-15 god knows what thats for,as this tier doesnt exist on my sky uk full card.

    no matter what i do this expired card still just refuses to update further.

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    It seems when the cards are switched off they may give corrupted tier information.
    Check your PM.

    EDIT

    Hmmm.. that may actually be a valid tier. Does it open any encrypted channel?
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    LFC and a few **** channels thats all.

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    So we can add it to the list

    Code:
    00 03  Unknown
    00 0B  Unknown
    00 1D  BBC 1 + 2, BBC Choice, BBC News 24, BBC Knowledge
    B7 65  Channel 5
    B7 66  Channel 4 /4Xtra
    B7 72  ITV (Channel 3)
    B7 73  XXX Preview ?
    B8 60  XXX Preview ? 
    B9 E2  LFC / XXX Preview

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabber View Post
    It is wierd that the one channel is still on the card even though the date is just crazy. . . .
    Unless the way they deactivate a card is by sending it an invalid date string. It may also allow them to reactivate it if the internal s/w recognises a new sequence based on the invalid date.

    Remember that the emus only do their best to make sense of some commands. I'm sure there are loads of commands that are not implemented in the emus.

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    Yes as has been pointed out before there is lots not understood about NDS.
    I have remembered the history of the card I quote with no entitlements yet still clears some channels. It originally was issued as a full sub card but would never work. It was replaced and therefore wont be sent updates anyway. I hope I haven't confused anyone by saying how this card behaves as it must be faulty, it would never get entitlements in a digibox with sly sending them addressed individually to it.

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    a card with no entitlements will not clear any channels .

    although in oscam a white card with no entitlements will report in the log that a few random channel ecms have been responded to correctly . even HD channels which the card has not been active to open for years , the hd channel may not have existed when the white card was last active .

    i cant tell if these responces from the dead card are real or bad logging in oscam .

    every dead card ive got hold of has updated and paired to an original sky box to allow free to view channels only , getting 9 entitlements .

    i put a dead white card in oscam and it updated to free to view channel entitlements but had only 8 listed .

    i recently got another dead white card , which i will now replace my ftv card in my oscam server to see what happens as ian has reported his one entiltement card to see what happens . as new tier entitlements may be implimented .

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    "a card with no entitlements will not clear any channels" well:
    I have had cards with expired entitlements, they had all disappeared, decoding all the soft **** and HD retail info channels. The oscam log shows what is happening, as shown in #8. People have said "these channels are not encrypted" but if I pull the card out the channel stops. This is in a box with no other connections or cards.
    I have left the card working in say the climax channel and it got updated.

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    In the early days of ana1ogue (and digital ?) NDS cards there used to be a soft decrypt. That is it used a default key which never needed updating to unscramble some channels. I think it was more for stopping Johnny Foreigner from watching UK channels. I have no idea if it worked in anything else other than a Sly box.

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    These are my Tiers on my FTV card ..
    On my FTV Card i still clear these channels entitlements are updated to 11-8-2012 :

    Sony TV and +1
    Sony Movies and +1
    Viva
    HD Retail info
    CH5 HD
    Ch4 and +1 [ 12480 v 27.500sr Fec 2/3 Oscam emu still required for these ]
    Motors TV
    Almost all Sly ***** channels when in promo / preview mode





    Entitlement info
    003
    00b
    001d
    b765
    b766
    b772
    b773
    b860

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    liverpool tv C5C1 3E seems to open with a card without any entitlements at all . oscam reports reading and responding to a card with no entitlements .

    how can a card respond positive if no tier is defined ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikie8 View Post
    liverpool tv C5C1 3E seems to open with a card without any entitlements at all . oscam reports reading and responding to a card with no entitlements .

    how can a card respond positive if no tier is defined ?

    Have you tried it with no card and also a different card ( goldcard, or even the same card put in the wrong way around) ?

    Back in the videocrypt days, some channels were soft crypted at certain times (usually the ***** 10 min freeviews) and only needed a card inserted to flick the switch in the card reader to open them iirc.

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    MY FTV card clears the same as Barneys but in a HD+ box I cannot record anything?? it was reported elsewhere that it should record if one lnb was selected but still nothing !! any ideas guyz??

    I will not pay sly 10 a month to use this facility..

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    you cannot use it for recording without a sub to sly, they pair the box to the card and enable sly plus, or you pay 10 per month

    wont work with a freesat card as sly plus has to be paid for

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    The word is that a expired subscription card that was previously used with a package is still supposed to record and playback if only one LNB is connected as in flat complexes ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred fickle View Post
    The word is that a expired subscription card that was previously used with a package is still supposed to record and playback if only one LNB is connected as in flat complexes ??
    Correct but only an 0961 card.

    So you have a choice, you can either use your ftv card to watch the extra channels or use your old yellow house card and have the record / playback features.

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    Tried the old yellow house card but still no go btw what will the yellow card clear now LFC maybe ??

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    The yellow house card will only enable recording IF it originally had the "+" (recording option) added.
    A specific bit is set in one of the start-up cmd strings.

    I'm not sure if it will enable HD recordings or not (probably not, if it was orginally just SD).
    A specific tier also has to be enabled on the newer HD boxes too. This certainly will not be on an old yellow house card.

    The yellow house card will not open any channels.

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    if blue card came from a HD sub it will records HD ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltec View Post
    free view card 28 west
    were do i get one of these cards from for my spider box
    I wonder whether the original question was indeed for Intelsat 907 on 27.5 W where all the freesat channels are transmitted in BISS encryption, for UK licence payers who for any reason are outside the reach of a local terrestrial signal.
    I would also be interested in obtaining such a BISS card that would clear these channels (for use in the south of Portugal - where the signal from 27.5 W is very strong).
    Any suggestions on that topic?
    Last edited by great dane; 25-02-2013 at 04:29 PM.

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