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    free view card 28 west

    were do i get one of these cards from for my spider box

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltec View Post
    were do i get one of these cards from for my spider box
    Surely that should be 28 East.

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    If it is 28E then any expired (but not switched off) white card will do.

    Failing that, they are about 20 from Sly.

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    Detlef

    How do you tell if its been switched off ?

    ive had an old Sky UK card that ive been given in my oscam for 4 weeks now and its still only received 1 entitlement,my own full Sky UK card has received 2 updates in this time,so the other old card is not updating and i dont know why.
    hence the question about it being switched off.

    Ian.

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    As usual I am keen to get my head around this subject, one of the threads where we were talking about this before, (cant find it) had my findings playing about with old cards in EMUs and an official box. Some with no entitlements came up with message in digibox saying something like "wrong card for box" and others said "unauthorised" or similar. I assumed these had been stopped by sly.
    However what does "stopped" or "activated" mean? as I have said before, cards with no entitlement tiers at all can still decode some channels. We do know that it needs a unique EMM for updates so presumably if sly dont send any addressed to a particular card number it would never get any more entitlements.
    Would be nice to have a few answers to questions like why do some FTV cards have 9 and some ex-sub cards have 8 tiers?

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    The only ones that I have seen where peeps say they have been switched off have no entitlements whatsoever.

    If it has received one entitlement then it is not dead but may just be a Freesat from Sky only.

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    ive never come across any white card that is in a state other than , with or without entitlements .

    no entitlement cards will update to gain entitlements , but 8 or 9 is free to view , not 1 .

    @ ian ,what channels clear with 1 entitlement ?
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    Yes I second that, again more questions than answers,
    Am I right in thinking that when entitlements expire they disappear from the list on the card? This is from a card in oscam with no entitlements whatsoever:
    "localuser (0963&000000/D158/3E:F236): found (61 ms) by slot_1 (1 of 2) - Climax" as you can see decoding "climax" channel along with a few others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikie8 View Post
    ive never come across any white card that is in a state other than , with or without entitlements .

    no entitlement cards will update to gain entitlements , but 8 or 9 is free to view , not 1 .

    @ ian ,what channels clear with 1 entitlement ?
    I have a card with 1 entitlement, it clears LFC TV and the soft **** channels during the day.

    The card only has the 1 entitlement since it was killed off back in 2010

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    Never heard of that before, does it still update it's one entitlement?

    edit my no entitlement card wont clear LFC it gives this:
    [videoguard2-reader] classD3 ins54: status 90 00 = ok but cw=00 -> channel not subscribed
    Last edited by crabber; 21-06-2012 at 02:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabber View Post
    Never heard of that before, does it still update it's one entitlement?
    It does not update and still has the date of 2010.

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    On my white slycard that the spiderbox resurrected, according to vizcam I have 4 entitlements(but 8 listed in detailed view). It opens Ch5HD and Picktv. Not sure if that's any help. Looking at the list of channels I am not sure there is any advantage of having one.
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    Pick tv is fta now.
    Five hd does open along with motors tv and sony I think.

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    Pick TV is changing between FTA and encrypted, goodness knows why but I am certain it is being scrambled again at times as someone rang me the other day complaining it wouldn't open with cccam and their sub card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic1 View Post
    I have a card with 1 entitlement, it clears LFC TV and the soft **** channels during the day.

    The card only has the 1 entitlement since it was killed off back in 2010
    thats exactly what this one opens,only the card was never killed off,the guy just stopped paying sky and cancelled his subscription.but the life of the card was extended past the kill off date by about 6 weeks by not allowing any new emms through until the last entitlements expired.
    when i inserted into the reader it had no entitlements and now after 4 weeks it has just the one and only opens LFC and a few **** channels during the day.

    Ian.

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    card reader /dev/sci0
    handled 0(0) ecms and 0(0) emms
    rejected sids: 128f, 13f3

    Nds card xxxxxxx

    Entitlement info
    2bfb 44-07-2010

    This is the info I see with CCcam

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabber View Post
    Pick TV is changing between FTA and encrypted, goodness knows why but I am certain it is being scrambled again at times as someone rang me the other day complaining it wouldn't open with cccam and their sub card.
    pick tv and challenge tv and motors tv are fta at the moment

    my card is opening c5HD and sony tv and viva

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    It is wierd that the one channel is still on the card even though the date is just crazy. the tiers given by oscam on a card bought as a FTV are 0003,000b,001d,b765,b766,b772,b77 3,b860,b8c0. The last one is missing on an ex-sub card, yet all the channels open just the same. No sign of 2bfb so wtf is going on I wonder?

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    2bfb 44-07-2010
    2BFB is not a valid tier. CCcam is reading it incorrectly.
    This can be seen from the invalid date.

    These are the tiers on a FTV card with the known tiers indicated.

    00 03 Unknown
    00 0B Unknown
    00 1D BBC 1 + 2, BBC Choice, BBC News 24, BBC Knowledge
    B7 65 Channel 5
    B7 66 Channel 4 /4Xtra
    B7 72 ITV (Channel 3)
    B7 73 XXX Preview ?
    B8 60 XXX Preview ?

    It can be seen that a lot of the tiers are old legacy tiers and are no longer used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007.4 View Post
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    2bfb 44-07-2010
    2BFB is not a valid tier. CCcam is reading it incorrectly.
    This can be seen from the invalid date.

    These are the tiers on a FTV card with the known tiers indicated.

    00 03 Unknown
    00 0B Unknown
    00 1D BBC 1 + 2, BBC Choice, BBC News 24, BBC Knowledge
    B7 65 Channel 5
    B7 66 Channel 4 /4Xtra
    B7 72 ITV (Channel 3)
    B7 73 XXX Preview ?
    B8 60 XXX Preview ?

    It can be seen that a lot of the tiers are old legacy tiers and are no longer used.
    The card has been in that state even since is was killed off when I had a letter from bskyb

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