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    Just read through this thread, and hats off to you Cosworth, good old, "I,ll give this idea a good bash" thank you, there is life in the hobby still

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    i finally got round to testing the icecrypt lnb modded to fit on channel master feedhorn a few weeks back and also had a mti .6 c120 form at the same time here are the results .

    7 west modded ice / mti / modded smart tit

    jsc sports 52% / 53 % / 55%
    iraqui sports 54% / 50% / 59%
    alsalam 56% / 51% / 61%
    melody aflam 53% / 50% / 58%
    rotana clip 50% / 46% / 56%

    10 east

    ortc 38% / 42% / 44%
    syria 52%/ 51% / 55%


    after 007.4 said he had better signal on the stronger sats with his invacom (thanks).
    i decided to see what the difference was on these 3 on a strong signal and the icecrypt came out best :001_07: on 13 east , so very easy to get it wrong when you slap up a new lnb and just look at the stronger sats , i didnt waste too much time on this as a pointless task in my view.



    13 east

    ab motors 94% / 92% / 92%
    ant 1 99% / 96% / 96%

    thanks ech for reopening it for me and hopefully it will be helpful to some.

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    ive just tested the smart tit modified against the inverto c120 black pro.

    7 west black pro / smart tit.


    iraqui sports 48% 53%
    jsc sports 33% break up / 39%
    melody aflam 47% 53%
    skynews 41% 48%
    alsalam 49% 56%
    extreme sports 43% 50%

    10 east

    ortc 41% 44%
    palestine today 64% 64%
    rasheed 81% 84%

    13 east

    ab motors 92% 92%
    ant-1 93% 98%
    axn hd 92% 97%

    19 east

    ab motors 92% 98%
    ab1 96% 98%
    bbc world 92% 98%
    bvn 96% 97%

    33 east

    11105h 50% 54%

    21 east

    afaik 80% 85%

    i had a bit more time today to try out a few more sats there was 2 channel that the black pro equaled the smart tit on the rest was a not even close one breaking up and un-watchable.
    so its still the smart tit thats best on the channel master 1.2 and CORRECT cm/andrews/raven feedhorn .
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosworth4x4 View Post
    ive just tested the smart tit modified against the inverto c120 black pro.

    7 west black pro / smart tit.


    iraqui sports 48% 53%
    jsc sports 33% break up / 39%
    melody aflam 47% 53%
    skynews 41% 48%
    alsalam 49% 56%
    extreme sports 43% 50%

    10 east

    ortc 41% 44%
    palestine today 64% 64%
    rasheed 81% 84%

    13 east

    ab motors 92% 92%
    ant-1 93% 98%
    axn hd 92% 97%

    19 east

    ab motors 92% 98%
    ab1 96% 98%
    bbc world 92% 98%
    bvn 96% 97%

    33 east

    11105h 50% 54%

    21 east

    afaik 80% 85%

    i had a bit more time today to try out a few more sats there was 2 channel that the black pro equaled the smart tit on the rest was a not even close one breaking up and un-watchable.
    so its still the smart tit thats best on the channel master 1.2 and CORRECT cm/andrews/raven feedhorn .
    I see the problem, your feedhorn is the wrong colour to work correctly with that lnb

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    dam it i knew i should have gone for the white tec ,the cable would have been happy as well as thats white too

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    Dish channel master 1.2 ocated in middle england -weather conditions grey/misty/foggy-normal for uk

    Ive installed my modded twin tit with c/m feedhorn- Receiver Vu Duo

    Big thanks to cosworth4x4:respect-051:

    Results as follows

    Inverto twin black ultra / Modded Tit

    7 West

    Alsalam
    46% 46%
    Melody Aflam
    45% 45%


    10 East

    Afro
    0% 60%
    ORTC
    43% 45%
    4 East

    Viasat Football
    17% 72%
    Viasat Film Classic
    66% 70%

    26 East

    Ad Sports HD
    0% 0%
    MBC2
    65% 67%
    Dubai Sports 6
    36% 66%
    1 West

    BBC News
    94% 99%
    M1 Magyar TV
    47% 92%
    TNT Bravo
    36% 85%

    I will check some more sats/channels when i get my hands on r/c again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosworth4x4 View Post
    ive just tested the smart tit modified against the inverto c120 black pro.
    cosworth,
    I was wondering if it would be possible to compare for example:


    - Invacom SNF-031 c-120 with CM feed horn vs. Invacom SNH-031.

    or

    - Inverto Black Pro c-120 with CM feed horn vs Inverto Black 40mm LNBF


    Otherwise if someone has done it, can you please provide a link to the results. I am cnsidering changing from Inverto Black pro 40 mm LNBF on 1.2 CM dish to CM feedhorn with flange LNB, but would appreciate to understand what differene in signal can be expected before the investments start.


    Thanks a million!

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    sorry i dont have a snh-031 to com-pair , and almost all the other lnbs ive now sold on the snf-031 worked very well with the cm feedhorn ,but if you have to buy one and need more than one cable connection they are a bit pricey.
    if you want the most out of the dish id still advise go the cm feedhorn and modify a smart tit to fit, its not hard the pictures are there for you and advise just ask.
    the results are above comparing the black ultra (standard) against cm feedhorn and modded smart tit.

    what sat are you looking to improve and whats youre ruff location.

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    Wow, excellent job modding those LNBs, Hats OFF excellent info in this thread.
    Turbo

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    ive got a modded black ultra single on my fibo gregorian dish ,i have a twin tuner rec now so need to update was going to go with twin invacom but know im going to suffer after having the modded ultra,trouble with my dish is the feedarm can get in the way of longer type lnbs like the inverto twin ,what you recommend cos

    example of fibo dish ,you can see the clearence issue with something like a inveto twin even with 90° f-connectors
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    what you got on there now looks like a smw ,i take it youre not using or going to use the polariser not many receivers out there now that can power it, bit of a shame as you could have just angled any lnb to clear the arm as the polariser would sort that out anyway.
    personally if you are going to mod a lnb id do one to fit straight to the feedhorn as that polariser will block a small amount of signal,unsure on the amount.

    whats the distance to got in clearance to the arm from the bottom of lnb.

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    sorry mate thats not my dish just an example of a fibo to illustrate what i mean by the longer type LNBS hitting the feed arm

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    ok can you get to the dish easily to measure the gap , ive got 2 lnb's here icecrypt and a smart tit i can then tell you their size.

    invacom should be fine as it is all length, and im sure the black ultra was the longest so if you got that on there you should be ok with a smart tit if you want to go that route.

    you can also get L shape f plugs if the cable gets in the way of the arm.

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    ill have to have a measure at the weekend ,black ultra single is quite small mate i got a 40 mm collar modded to fit on the fibo feedhorn,i had the c120 inverto red classic single before but the modded one was far better across all sats, its the inverto twins that get a lot longer and ive seen post on fibo forums there an issue as they have to be squewed to fit even with 90° f's


    see this pic a guy on the fibo forums done this one so must be ok,

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    ok ive still got the twin modded smart tit from first pictures here , im willing to post it to you so you can see if you will get any improvement providing it will fit ,i will need it back tho as its promised to someone else.

    i just looked at black ultra single picture and yeah it is very small in the area that would catch the arm.

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    thanks for the offer mate think ill just get the guy to make me one of these,he just this minute posted this on the forum about 30euros from holland

    sorry if i h1jack3d your thread a bit mate ,some usefull comparisons
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    whats he making no link.

    its what the post is her for to help others.

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    yea guess hes just hacksawing the end off lol and filing it off to fit inside the the fibo feed horn

    just worried about the skew though ,what you reckon ?,prob be better coming down the other side of feedarm to get as close to zero as possible for diseqc

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    if thats all he is doing do it yourself , not seen the photos but if he is putting it inside of the feedhorn there is going to be a step that could cause a problem with the signal entering the lnb.

    can you post pictures or a clue on the site.

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    think its just an old guy who does it for a hobby mate i mean the lnbs are what getting on 20 quid ,+postage from netherlands so hes only doing it for a few euros hardly wotth getting my tools out,, 2 pics ive posted are whats hes emailed me he says hes not sure about Skew ,he did me the single aswell ,i could copy that as the collars will be similar

    can you not see the 2 photos above mate ??
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