JaZUp 2.3 by Hectore et Pr2

[@telesat]

Pr2, I would like to ask why You lie ? Is there any special need for that ?
Any special reason to spit on RTi ? Is this "Thank You" for all what RTi give You all information how to build tool ?
First of all, as we can see here YOU are considering that everybody is using 4GB DOM ?!
Even in case of bigger DOM You input lies here trying to promote JAZUp
As ofcourse You know that AZUp is detecting sizes of DOM and by them creating sizes of partitions!
Ofcourse AZUp have option : "Format Extended partition" , so why you lie ?

This tool (JAZUP) is unoficial and this tool is big risk and hazard, because without informations from RTi team you can make good tool and exposing users to danger :(
And also wihout informations from RTi you make bad isntall of E2 and you do harm RTi project becasu if user install E2 via JazUp - E2 work bad !!!

If You think that You know better than RTi team, it will be our pleasure that You take development so we can rest little bit!

Instead that RTi do work on new Enigma 2 Image we need to keep eyes open and waste our time to prevent bullsh*ts ike You input!

At least end users need to know that!

[sildoro]

Hi all,
I just want to say that I use only Linux (on a home computer and laptop), so I never had the opportunity to use AzUp. All upgrades (including return to the original firmware) on my Azbox Premium were done with JaZUp and I've never had any problem.
My great thanks to the RTI team for hard work and responsiveness.
I am also grateful to all independent developers, and especially Hectore et Pr2, without whose assistance would not use enigma 2.

[pr2]

@RTi members,

...
When we testing new Enigma 2 image, we always test by AZUp before we release image and AZUp in public, just to be sure that all will go OK, and that You will not burn your receiver by accident.
...

You should deeply review your testing process then...

Pr2, I would like to ask why You lie ? Is there any special need for that ?

We didn't lie, we just install with Azup and show the result to warm users to help you improve Azup.

Any special reason to spit on RTi ?

We didn't spit on RTi we just provide an alternate tools.

Is this "Thank You" for all what RTi give You all information how to build tool ?

Be honest you didn't provide me any information to wrote JaZUp.
How many hours do I spend with you late at night to troubleshoot your timers, since your are not capable to synchronise your command. You take a stop watch and check how many times operation take. I was never credited for the time I spend on to help YOU.
I am also the one that suggest to mount the extended DOM in /media/cf, so please be honest.

First of all, as we can see here YOU are considering that everybody is using 4GB DOM ?!

False JaZUp is smart enough to adapt itself to the DOM size.

Even in case of bigger DOM You input lies here trying to promote JAZUp
As ofcourse You know that AZUp is detecting sizes of DOM and by them creating sizes of partitions!
Ofcourse AZUp have option : "Format Extended partition" , so why you lie ?

Please review your Visual Basic code then... still buggy...

This tool (JAZUP) is Unoficial and this tool is big risk and hazard, because without informations from RTi team you can make good tool and exposing users to danger :(
And also wihout informations from RTi you make bad isntall of E2 and you do harm RTi project becasu if user install E2 via JazUp - E2 work bad !!!

It becomes unofficial since you do censorship to prevent user to access it from your forum.
How many Azbox do you brick with the use of Azup, many, why do I need to wrote a full tutorial to recover an Azbox with a Yamon cable (based on input find on Satpimps)?
Answer: because of your timer approach when you launch command when the previous one was not done, etc...

E2 work bad when installed with JaZUp come on, let me laugh out and loud. That's what you try to convince people but it is not true. Give me concrete example of bugs due to JaZUp?
The problems that end-users have are pure E2 bugs.

Which tool was the first one to disable hardware acceleration and other 3rd party tools? Answer JaZUp... yes you follow us and now you also include that kind of test.

Sorry but we never heard of bricked Azbox due to JaZUp you for sure cannot say the opposite with Azup.

If You think that You know better than RTi team, it will be our pleasure that You take development so we can rest little bit!

We propose to work together on JaZUp and you refuse (fortunatelly for us when we saw the quality of what you produce).

Instead that RTi do work on new Enigma 2 Image we need to keep eyes open and waste our time to prevent bullsh*ts ike You input!
At least end users need to know that!

Yes indeed end users need to know that RTi tries, at each release, to change something to prevent JaZUp to work. For example we didn't get any support and we ask nothing about it when you decide to use a patch.e2 file format for your firmware.
I think that every end-user will be happy if you would focus on the real problem on RTi E2 firmware (still so buggy) rather than always trying to block JaZUp by changing stuff in the flashing process.

What is your problem with JaZUp? Simply work better than Azup...

Why do we made the partitions problem public, just to warm user and to give you, RTi, the feedback on the bug that you have in your "deeply tested" Azup 2.0.7

Pr2

[Hectore]

Hello,

We look the wondeful "do-it-yourself" code of telesat and we understand a lot of things.

When you made a professional software you have some tests of quality. Nothing is tested in AZup!
When i test the quality of a programme, i test first the input/ouput zone text !

Look !


This test is failed. Azup don't pass this test ! Everybody can test that !

Telesat do you have a computer science degree ? If yes, please back to school computer.
You introduce more bug in E2, i don't understand why the_ripper support azup/telesat who sabotages his work...

Also mister Telesat things that everyone have a pc with Windows. Hey dude ! Do you want a secret ? That's false !
You have linux/Unix users, Mac Users and other one with a azbox and you ignore this community.

Before critique our work, you must scan before your door!
With your state of mind who does not accept valuable outside helps and remarks and that tries at each new releases to prevent JaZUp from working.
I think that in these conditions azbox is dead.

Azbox community, you can tell thanks to Telesat that put trap in code to put JaZUp out of service instead of fixing its bugs, unless azup be a trap!

Telesat, would you still spanked?

Regards.

[@telesat]

I see , good work in Photoshop and you continue using lies , but my idea is not to argue with you.

I have clearly said :

This tool (JAZUP) is Unoficial and this tool is big risk and hazard, because without informations from RTi team you can make good tool and exposing users to danger :(
And also wihout informations from RTi you make bad isntall of E2 and you do harm RTi project becasu if user install E2 via JazUp - E2 work bad !!!

If You think that You know better than RTi team, it will be our pleasure that You take development so we can rest little bit!

Instead that RTi do work on new Enigma 2 Image we need to keep eyes open and waste our time to prevent bullsh*ts ike You input!

At least end users need to know that!

[mikeyea]

Here are two quotes from telesat which confuse me:

I have clearly said :

This tool (JAZUP) is Unoficial and this tool is big risk and hazard, because without informations from RTi team you can make good tool and exposing users to danger :(
And also wihout informations from RTi you make bad isntall of E2 and you do harm RTi project becasu if user install E2 via JazUp - E2 work bad !!!

And quote 2:
"Pr2, I would like to ask why You lie ? Is there any special need for that ?
Any special reason to spit on RTi ? Is this "Thank You" for all what RTi give You all information how to build tool ? "

Now: which one is correct? Are JazUp developers getting all information needed as in quote 2 or aren't they as in in quote 1? If not, why not? Just because they use a diferent programming language ?

When I look at the flow of rage in this thread - leading up to the "promise" to install traps - I am shocked. There must be something else behind this...

Whatever, a great project like this does not deserve to be worn out in such a
degrading manner.

Mike

[Carp95]

Hmmm something goes terrible wrong here these are the release notes from V1.1 off JazUp

Hello,

Hector and I worked together to provide you with a reliable tool to upgrade to E2 and return to official firmware of your Azbox HD.
This tool is multi-platform and has been tested on Windows, Mac OSX and Ubuntu.

It is therefore an alternative to the Azup Telesat, which we thank

[@telesat]

I see , good work in Photoshop and you continue using lies , but my idea is not to argue with you.
I have clearly said :

This tool (JAZUP) is Unoficial and this tool is big risk and hazard, because without informations from RTi team you can make good tool and exposing users to danger :(
And also wihout informations from RTi you make bad isntall of E2 and you do harm RTi project becasu if user install E2 via JazUp - E2 work bad !!!

If You think that You know better than RTi team, it will be our pleasure that You take development so we can rest little bit!

Instead that RTi do work on new Enigma 2 Image we need to keep eyes open and waste our time to prevent bullsh*ts ike You input!

At least end users need to know that!

[MickeySa]

Excellent!

So what You want to say pr2/Hectore, is that You stolen proprietary code which was maded by telesat! Nice reverse engineering, and for sure jazup will stay just unofficial tool which kill AzBox receivers....

However from next release of Enigma 2 we have decided to protect AzBox owners against BAD flashing software.

There will be no alternative to AZUp as it will be onlz tool with which is possible to flash AzBox with Enigma 2.

What is more dangerous ?

To have SW with GUI bug, or to have SW with nice GUI which is dangerous and not functional like jazup is!

We will not participate in this thread anymore.

[Carp95]

@RTI team please don't add useless code into enigma2 just to protect AzUp program. ( I can garantee you guys it will take only a couple off days to fool enigma2 installation and JazUp will work )


As a fact I know Pr2 and Hectore offered ( before releasing JazUp ) to help you guys out with AzUp and he did, and the result ; Pr2 was trown out by you guys,

I still remember the discussion between telesat and Pr2 ( scart ) and the child-like reaction from telesat

Just be happy that there's a program for non-windows users.

Only warnings that JazUp would be dangerous?? well a lot off users can tell otherwise.

This time I support Pr2 and Hectore, I don't like the attitude off you guys (telesat and mickeysa ) seems that telesat is jealous

[skybub]

Hi all,
I just want to say that I use only Linux (on a home computer and laptop), so I never had the opportunity to use AzUp. All upgrades (including return to the original firmware) on my Azbox Premium were done with JaZUp and I've never had any problem.
My great thanks to the RTI team for hard work and responsiveness.
I am also grateful to all independent developers, and especially Hectore et Pr2, without whose assistance would not use enigma 2.

I absolutely agree : JAZUP is a great tool and I never had any problem with it. Best of all, it works under Windows, but also Linux and Mac OS X (which cannot do AZUP).

I hope everybody will focus on improving each own work, not on denigrating the very good work that has benn done by the other one.

Thanks to Hectore, PR2 and RTI team !

Best Regards.