This has all to do with supporting Card's CAM's and Boxes, and making money, well OK. But we started off throwing away cards, then CAM's now it is complete STB. I won't be joining in.
Anyone thinking of splashing out on a new STB might give the fowling a little thought.
RTE's Saorsat.
The following summary is likely (Partially confirmed marked *):
• Kasat @ 9E, launch is between November 2010 and February 2011 *
• Kasat has over 80 Spot beams *
• Kasat uses N=4 "frequency" reuse via two bands and two polarities on four spacecraft dishes, so four different "kinds" of spot.
• Ka Band, hot spot on Ireland, so small dish, maybe 30cm to 45cm *
• Internet VSAT using Tooway/Viasat gear, no bigger than 56cm dish *
• Sat IF for VSAT RX modem can be split for Setbox
• Everything (all Transponders for TV and Internet Downlink) on same band an Polarity.
• Reception on larger dish possible most or all of N.I., but not likely at all in mainland UK when French Spot covering Calais is active no matter how big the dish is.
• Cassegrain rear feed "in a box" Flat 440 dish possible simply with Ka LNBF
• Needs DVB-s2 HD receiver even for SD TV*.
• Very likely the underlying MPEG-TS is identical to Saorview so Identical content inc MHEG5 middleware
• Needed for "fill-in" as there will be only 51 DTT sites instead of recommended 140+. Perhaps up to 10% of households will need it. Definitely at least 5% for any reliable Irish TV after 2012 without Sky/UPC.
• Initially it's unlikely Sky will have RTE HD or any extra Saorview/Saorsat content.
• Also used as DTT site backup feed (hence Identical Content and TS as no MUX or encoders needed at DTT sites and only one sat receiver per Mux)
• Mid 2011 Service start. Saorsat service can't start obviously until Kasat is commissioned. *
• Cost is only €1.5M * (content for one DTT Mux or both DTT Mux?)
• Free To Air. No encryption *.
• Unlikely to affect Sky content.
• Receiving Sky/Freesat also needs dual LNBs on specialised Dish or two dishes*.
• Dual, Twin, Quattro, Quad, Octo LNBs not needed as all content is likely on one band and polarity, for life of Satellite. Normal Sat IF splitter for up to four tuners/PVR and amp(s) plus splitters for over 1000+ tuners. An 80cm dish perhaps for Distribution systems.
• Not compatible foe DirecTV ka band gear as that is Circular Polarised*.
Last edited by bob; 28-10-2010 at 08:29 PM.
This is the Answer for YOU....
When i Create Modial Stb 11 tears agou TM owners did even know what mean STB ... ,,,,,Mayers Audio 7-8 years and after Technomate ltd only 3 years old company was coping ME ...just for your info....
Who was Out Fist DARK MAN or TM...( do you know this Question..!?)
Who done the TM big Name !? under which name "Darkman patch"... do not forget that...
The question was so stupid...do not matter who born fist for me any way, who is the best for the moment.
who is try put impute in innovative stb TM or ***** !?
USB PVR ***** fist.
Super darkmotor metal gear *****
CCcam Client and non Linux stb work good ...*****
Non Linux HD stb Server master *****..
Even non manufacture ! But My developers with ME...
Where is the New Thinks development of TM company !?
Tm 1500 old !
Tm 5000 even today not working pvr in scrabble channels.!
Tm 3000 China Global.!
Tm 7000 Collapse integra
Tm Sd linux from It gate years before in market..
TM 8000 big copy development Enigma 2! and FAIL
Now Hubtech and integra has got the Spidebox and are trying Cappy our development ..this is true for engineer inside of both companies....
even they are lining in our Next development.....Sti7100 cpu we are doing...
Motor Motek fail for 2 years coping Darkmotor metal gear now Tm 2600 ..!?
Lnb coping Skywork coping us ! same manifature ....i was produsing for Digitalb...
Dish from ISS UK now from Sab hollande Turkey ...
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
any one tell me the only one development of this company !?pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Without Our Help never they can do any think ...the only development they done ,they have some money and misled people with fake advertises...That's all.
they have try to use my Knolege ,,my Name and try coping my ideas and some others here and after that ,,they even told us Thanks and they think becoming big and arrogants untill they lost all thir reputation...
TM without Us developers is NULL....That's for sure...
My Hate come from "Nife back" i got from the people i have tech them even in my house and have even help with all My heart....
But the world is around ,soon they will see and cray for what they done...
I am sory for your ignorance ,,,,,,I do not need Copy mvission is Mvission they dream to have Spiderbox s/w....
To rimnder you We produse in korea not from OEM mvission Spain....Stupid....and we have our development Team.....and we have develope the non Linux Box stb in Master server Machine....Mvission NO.....haw we are their coppy when we are the fist !?
UR Team Do not Exist ....or better are TM owner Knolege NULL....
2 Inginers from korea doing experimenst with Nxp Cpu....to try implent or copy enigma 2 to that Hw with that ****i cpu Nxp ( technomate owners was lineg is the Best when all ready i says more then a year agou is ****. )....Now that Cpu is in ******* stb with newcamd and Cccam and u tube for only $55 dollars ...
That is the real Face of Technoate.....loking for ****i cheap one....if you do not beleve me do some reserch...
TM without Us developers is NULL....That's for sure...
My Hate come from "Nife back" i got from the people i have tech them even in my house and have even help with all My heart....
But the world is around ,soon they will see and cray for what they done...[/QUOTE]
The World is Round !
Developers Rely on others faults to Advance/Progress their own situation and hopefully share for future profit/ advance/ amalgamation combined wisdom...
QUOTE
"My Hate come from " ................."have even help with all My heart"....
Darkman !
"Hate and Heart" are just not the right words to use in this thread.......
they are not even connected ......
Still I respect your view's on this Topic and wish you the very best with your future business prospects....
Plessy..
The World is Round !
Developers Rely on others faults to Advance/Progress their own situation and hopefully share for future profit/ advance/ amalgamation combined wisdom...
QUOTE
"My Hate come from " ................."have even help with all My heart"....
Darkman !
"Hate and Heart" are just not the right words to use in this thread.......
they are not even connected ......
Still I respect your view's on this Topic and wish you the very best with your future business prospects....
Plessy..[/QUOTE]
Thanks m8
But in the Human Heart .....Hate -Love are part of it...and is just a litle to pass from one to other.
I hate the Chiters with some money they like to kill all of us and distroy all and i love Geniune members and this hobby too.
I do not even care about Money so much , but if you see i care some much about Hobby ( staing even 5m working hard ,,,,fist time was Modial stb after technomate now spiderbox )...Hobby been killed in time some people with some money come and they copy us ,they creates brands and use us and after they pass the River they try to kill us....
Can any one tell me who is more Old TM or This forum with the priviouse Name SATDUDEZ ...very respected in our comunity Lee...
But who is him now and many developers !? small online shop this is not to offend any one ,is the truth... and who copy us and use us for their jobs and advertise became big company ( TM ) and they payment they done to us is to fock us...after they arrive what they need they like to clean the streat...
But for the God sick when i come from i am diferent, i do not Gave UP untill in my death....
publicly i will Tell Tm need to be very very carfully Now...
i will atack them haw they have atack all hobby people aorund...many of you do not know the real story..
I like gave a lesson to all those people they have try to profit from honest people and hobby people around....
All developers are killed m8 all big Names...and i see my self to servive to compite with them in same army een puting my self in danger...
You know m8 when poltics starts, even you are honest can not doit alowen, you need to form your PARTY and my product was not only for Money, but to Survive from Vampires of the hobby Competitors...they do not care for eny forum and eny developers ,but only to use us to do their Dirty money...
DM
When another man tires to steal my diesel fuel what do i do ?
you know the answer.....
When some tries to break into my Home What do you think I will do ?
When the Rain leaks into the roof of my house Who Do I go to for help ?
When another company/government holds me to the wall and says THIS IS THE LAW You Must Abide ? What do I do ?
When the Water stops flowing from my well who do I ask for Help ?
When the Weather turns nasty and All power is Gone Who Do I seek for assistance?
When the Petrol runs Dry and I no longer can run My Motorbike or Motor Car ? Who Do I ask For Help, When the Planet Dyes of "Project Enoch" Who will help us ??????
Quite Simply NO ONE !
My Argument with you DM is Nothing in comparative to what may come in the NEAR FUTURE ....
I Think in the next year or So Satellite TV will be the LAST thing on most Peoples Minds!.....
Still Though I like to think that we can support each other and hopefully Be some what optimistic, if it still exists......
Big Brother and all that is to come may somehow affect what your beliefs may hold........
Satellite TV is not the Most important thing in this World Gone Mad !......
So the end my wee disagreement with you Darkman.....
As I said in the past ! Why Kick Some one when they are on the Floor.....
Be a Man ! Stand tall ! and Shrug if off your Shoulder and get on with it,,,,, And for those who dont understand what you are talking about ? Leave them in the Dark for they don't know any wiser.......
Regards : Plessy.
Last edited by Plessy; 29-10-2010 at 12:48 AM.
Politics and Satellite TV as a Hobby are NOT CONNECTED "
Hi All
the sat hobby is finnished as it was.all we got is short life stbs cams and cards.
we have been beaten by providers.
you might as well watch freesat at least it is free buy your box and its all free from there on.
no real *** channals no football but hey its free.
if you want to watch a match go to the pub or the match like most do now.
even subbed cards for foriegn channals have been hiked.might as well pay ******.
c/s will be stopped then you will have nothing.
in the old days you hardly watched tv it was about opening channals looging making your own cards.real sat hobby.
i have tms. nokia. 9600. skystar2.and many more i just play with them like toys now when im bored.
so it no use slagging stbs off or peaople its the end of this hoppy.big prices little to see for long.
so just love each other and watch freesat
ALBERT
Well spoken young Albert if I had not got Nagra 3 open on April the first I would have nothing to watch.
Darkman ?
As you suggested to ALL IRISH USERS in the Past MPEG 4 was USELESS and We would need to Buy NEW STB With MPEG5 implementation ? (TOTAL B.S)
Yet Irish Government Implement Mpeg 4 as A Standard Viewing platform which Tm supports and U.K still only use MPEG2 format ..... ?
Excluding Cards/Cams/C/S..... I am Very Satisfied with my Technomate and a Few other attachments,,,,,
Not to mention the "MASARE" Team for their Friendly Non Judgemental Help and Advice along the way........ Yeah ! they Don't manufacture But they are Not Stabbing anyone in the back either....
In the old Days We used to use what we had to Survive to help each other !
You Are wasting you time trying to convince me (only one person).......
today business ethics are Cut throat and you participate/ condone it DM !
p.s. here is a handy link for future reference :h**p://dictionary.reference.com/
Plessy...
Last edited by Plessy; 29-10-2010 at 02:26 AM.
[QUOTE=bob;762743]This has all to do with supporting Card's CAM's and Boxes, and making money, well OK. But we started off throwing away cards, then CAM's now it is complete STB. I won't be joining in.
Anyone thinking of splashing out on a new STB might give the "fowling" a little thought.
RTE's Saorsat.
Bob ?
Lol "Fowling"? Did you mean "Bowling" i.e casting balls down the road for profit ?
or Following ?
hehe
I think DM would like to send me some source code of the nuevoxtream protocol then and service+ to implement in Fausto, because he likes to help the hobby and not making money.
Then all the hobbyists would benefit right?
Or from my ignorance i didnt understand well the post of DM ...?????
Di they know the Govermet is going to live Mepg4 !?
they just put a tuner Terrestrial is cost only 10 dollar more..that's it becouse T2 cost a lot of money.....
ut from this benifit is not technomate are coustmers ,do not need but Technomate more then £200 when can be only 50 euro stb...
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