Some boxes are fully crap...also my opinion.
But why, always this comparisons?
Many companies(hihi) und users don t like Enigma,,,,so you can
not call them "wanabees" boxes.
Dream blinded people force this anyway.
Also Dream aren t able todo things,that other boxes can.
When the sources and drivers,are coming...you can suck on
marusys,vu+ /teams will do this or not.
Back to topic:
A team image is ready and BarryAllen works,says the users.
Problem is that the sources for these alternative boxes will never be fully open, that is the problem, they can release how many new great hardware boxes as they wish and looks great on specs, but in the end of it, the software support is what means anything and Dreambox is truly open source and the only one.
DGS is one manufacturer i am annoyed at, they beleive they have such good boxes but their software is really **** and they never listen to their customers, never answer emails and so on, they don't give a **** about you.
When i had a DM7025s DMM actually answered emails and tried to come with a solution and not to mention the huge community out there, all good coders are in DMM community today.
All these companies releasing linux boxes and beleive they will take market are just stupid as they don't get it.
Without good software support these boxes will be dead before they even entered the market.
I don't like Enigma2 so much, i liked Neutrino where you had full control, in my opinion i really liked Enigma1 but it only supports 1 tuner.
Anyone remember the linux box Elanvision? it was expensive as hell, think it costed 500 euros, they promised everything but nothing happened with the software, all crap but pretty good hardware, not to mention Darkmans boxes he tries to sell, as soon as a new box comes with linux he says it will be the king, we all know that it's all just sales BS.'
...and the last joke from Duolabs, their Qbox HD which is just a brick in the wall, they can't even code and blaim it on hardware,yeah right, but they designed the box so fix the damn hardware then before selling it to public.
..and you all know about Azbox Premium the old model, yeah right! fool people into beleiving you need to buy the Premium+ to take advantage of the features you paid for in the first Premium box they sold, we want your money once again, buy the Premium+ and we promise heaven.
Last edited by Likvid; 05-01-2010 at 08:54 PM.
Marusys coders can't code for twin tuner, that is the reason the box only comes with a single tuner, it's true, i am not joking.Originally Posted by dave3dg
The quality of most coders out there are just ****, they shouldn't code at all.
Here is what I think of HD receivers so far and I can safely say I am not impressed look what happened to Quali TV,Humax HD receivers they did not fair well and same with newer receivers since then so I am opting for Dreambox HD receivers they may be pricey but at least their receivers will still have the support for years to come as the bugs continue to be ironed out.
All in all the rival manufacturers need to come up with something more substantial to convince me to go for the alternatives so sorry guys my mind is made up Dreambox it is.
Regards,
sstylianou1976
Other manufacturers just need to be unique and bring something new and innovative to the market instead of making dreambox wannabees.
The closest to achieve this so far is the azbox hd with multicas etc.. just a shame about the poor firmware
Maybe those want to get as close as can be to the best.
Azbox, sorry, but it will never be as good as Dreambox.
Still beta, no possibility for third party images, sux...
This new receiver gives us a good product that is almost identical as the DM8000 at half of the price. I'm also a Dreambox fan, but the DM8000 is a way above my budget... DM800 is cheaper but is also too less at a too high price. If I need a new receiver this model will be one of the candidates. It's not very knowed but it has already a lot of support. CCCam works standard on it what can not be said of many other boxes (AZbox, Qbox, ...)
Killer was maybe said a lot in my start to let everybody know about this receiver. Not the mention to let it be a killer but a good box at a good price. I don't need a DVD in my sat receiver, I have another device for doing that.
Now something else, here's a dump of the OS on it.
It shows that it's not clone and also shows it has nice things on board.
it's running a recent Linux kernel compulid on a recent gcc.
Linux version 2.6.18-6.6 (shcheong@NcshN) (gcc version 4.2.0 20070124 (prerelease) - BRCM 10ts-20080721) #105 SMP Wed Dec 23 16:42:51 CET 2009
It has standard the drivers on board for Smartreader+, ISOfs, cifs, reiserfs, NTFS (very handy) and USB drivers.
root@bm750:~# lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
sr_mod 16192 0 - Live 0xc05c3000
cdrom 43104 1 sr_mod, Live 0xc0aa8000
reiserfs 293440 0 - Live 0xc0bb0000
cifs 278672 0 - Live 0xc0ac1000
pl2303 22096 0 - Live 0xc05db000
ftdi_sio 34704 0 - Live 0xc0ab7000
belkin_sa 10000 0 - Live 0xc05b3000
usbserial 32768 3 pl2303,ftdi_sio,belkin_sa, Live 0xc0634000
isofs 37808 0 - Live 0xc0629000
vfat 12352 0 - Live 0xc05c9000
ntfs 293792 0 - Live 0xc0b09000
fat 56816 1 vfat, Live 0xc061a000
nls_iso8859_1 3904 0 - Live 0xc0080000
nls_cp437 5568 0 - Live 0xc05c0000
nls_base 7376 7 cifs,isofs,vfat,ntfs,fat,nls_iso8 859_1,nls_cp437, Live 0xc05b7000
usb_storage 39760 0 - Live 0xc05d0000
sata_svw 16656 0 - Live 0xc05ba000
libata 140576 1 sata_svw, Live 0xc05e2000
dvb_bcm7335 4622880 22 - Live 0xc063e000
dvb_core 106768 1 dvb_bcm7335, Live 0xc00bf000
fb 36512 5 dvb_bcm7335, Live 0xc0091000
procmk 2176 0 - Live 0xc0082000
totally agree about azbox never be as good as dreambox.
I sold my dm800 to buy an azbox and soon regreted it.
Then sold azbox and bought another dm800.
the best hardware is the ReelBox Avantgarde II, but the software sucks.....
Hahaha...been there done that but with IPBOX instead.
The website for this receiver is online : http://vuplus.com
Can you answer some questions
How many teams are supporting this box ?
Is it true as stated above that the box only comes with one tuner ?
Are 2 tuners working ok ?
What's the boot time ?
Will the website above also carry team images ?
Do Dreambox plugins work without modification ?
cheers
Teams : at this moment already 2 versions by a team calls VTI and as I read there is already a beta PLI image. Now certain people that own the box seemed to be able to run the standard DM images with three fixes.Can you answer some questions
How many teams are supporting this box ?
Is it true as stated above that the box only comes with one tuner ?
Are 2 tuners working ok ?
What's the boot time ?
Will the website above also carry team images ?
Do Dreambox plugins work without modification ?
cheers
Tuners: the box comes with two tuners and they are working good only there is a bug in CCCam, so crypted channels can be a problem atm, non scrambled no problem at all.
There is also a box on it's way with one tuner.
Plugins: working
Boot time : same as the DM8000
Website: does Dreambox Multimedia give team builds? Don't think so, but on the vuplus-support forum you can find them for sure.
Hope this give you all answers you wanted
Last edited by Lord^DS; 07-01-2010 at 11:28 PM.
this reciver sounds quite good. i would never buy a dreambox now as they still cant make a decent power supply and are good for frying eggs on, thats why people have to put there own fans in becuse dreams r&d is crap. if it was not then these very simple problems would have been sorted at the begining. as they should have lerned from the dm7000. i still have mine but i have to use a seperate power supply to run harddrive.
the azbox premuim is getting a lot better even though i feel robbed by the seconded tuner recording problems and a few other things. i was going to send it back under the sale of goods act but cant be bothered now as it is doing ok at mo.
it dont overheat, it does decode useing multicam and cccam and it does far more than a dm800 and is better buit. it even does as nearly as much as dm8000 and in some deptments does more.
do i rate hd recivers today. no. they all have problems, all u can do is toss a coin and buy the very latest all singing all danceing box possibly to be let down later. either by hardware like dream or software like azbox, which ever way you decide its up to u. u pay your money and takes your choice. thats life.:o11::respect-050:
When you say azbox does more than a dmm that is a matter of opinion.
appart from accomodate a second tuner and output 1080p what else does it do that dm800hd dont?
Infact I would say dm800 has loads more to offer at the moment.
IE:
diferent images
more cams
full epg for sly uk,sky italia,csat,canal nordic,sky germany and Digital+
hundreds of plugins
no network restrictions making it possible to play mkvs
open source code
many more skins
multiboot option
plus so many more.
You have a valid point and it is well known that azbox seems to have better hardware but that means nothing because the firmware is terrible and the source code will never be public so you have to use what they tell you to.
the problem with the dm800hd is they made the casing too small thus causing in to run at a high temp but at least thats a problem that the user can fix instead of waiting for a ccompany to do it!
Many users are happy with both receivers and they will definatly rate their own hd box as I really doubt they could go back to sd alone!
I would say Azbox HD is already better than any Dreambox.
It's certainly better than anthing else out there at the moment for the price.
How can a box which is on BETA firmware be better than any other box out there? How long has it been on beta? A year and something!!!!?
It is a better FTA reciever yes but thats about it!
As soon as cs is involved its terrible
6 months will be dead with no support
Lol, Very Good Joke . :bowing-036: :respect-040: :respect-055:
:sifone:
Well i have one thing to say here, IF i was MOD/Admin here, then i would delite all non sence posting, all posting that HIGHJACK threads with nonsence DMM, Opensat and the likes of it.
Guys this is new Product, this needs to be investigated , when we think of DM Clones that soem got here, can this box here maybe i say just maybe be A CLONE. or a new BRAND that has the almost exact HW in it and can run Enigma as good as DM does.
i Know here is the thread starter that need to make a better Title nex time, as every box has it is own up and downs.
OH, by the way Azbox is beter the dm ANYDAY HAHAHHAHAHHA not a good joke
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