How to use the BISS plugin? Help

[kebien]

PMT is a normal pid of 2 bytes,max value would be 1FFF.
Only one byte won't be enough in many cases.
And I haven't seen it anywhere in the box.

The only way I figured you can get the value in the same box,is to start manually any emu,like mgcamd,and get this value from the telnet window.
Mgcamd seem to be the easiest.
Also,considering you only have to do this only ONCE,it doesn't become an annoyance.

[oregon]

putty still a nice telnet program

When you connect to the azbox using root/azbox as login and pass,you must first stop mgcam.
Type ps
then a list of processes will be listed,you fin the very first instance of mgcamd,check the very first number at the left,then you type
kill (pid number) i.e. kill 870
The you type ps again,to make sure mgcamd is not listed anymore

Then you type
mgcam &
Or
/EMU/OpenXCAS/mgcamd/mgcamd & ( this assuming mgcamd binary is in this folder)
and will start logging in the telnet window,just tune to that channel you want the information from,and look for PMT value and also the SID value,this two you will need

Kebien

I just tried what you suggested, and the strangest thing happened, Fox sports on 8w suddenly cleared but I hadn't even made any changes to the BISS key menu! Maybe its FTA at the moment?

Anyway, this is the output from the telnet when I tuned to fox sports on 11604:

[mg0] stoping camd..
[mg0] service 6F index 0 pmt pid 0 (1)
ECM: CaID: 0x2600 -> CaPID: 0x1FFF ProvID: 000000
Fixed key 00 found, pid 1FFF sid 6F id 6F1FFF
Fixed key 01 found, pid 1FFF sid 6F id 6F1FFF
[mg0] Sat Jan 1 00:38:40 2000
===== BISS ECM on CaID 0x2600, pid 0x1fff ======
prov: 000000
cw0:0 01 03 A1 A5 02 B0 78 2A
cw1:0 01 03 A1 A5 02 B0 78 2A
[mg0] stopped


Can you make any sense of that? I cant seem to see a value in PMT PID?

Thanks

[oregon]

I have just gone into the BISS plugin menu and there is now a value of 0033 in the PMT PID.

How did that get in there? I cant see 0033 in the telnet output.

The channel only seems to clear if I have the telnet logging command running....

[dniestre]

Try this (I don't have this box!!):

AZBOX HD - SERVER for CAMS E KEYS

for CAMS: h__p://server.az-box.co.uk/cams
for KEYS: h__p://server.az-box.co.uk/keys
for PLUGs: h__p://server.ax-box.co.uk/plug

how to put this sites on the AZBOX:

"EDIT URL" and introduce the URLs. That's it.

Then just download and install.

thanks to dirtytuga from Dragteam forum

[kebien]

I have just gone into the BISS plugin menu and there is now a value of 0033 in the PMT PID.

How did that get in there? I cant see 0033 in the telnet output.

The channel only seems to clear if I have the telnet logging command running....

That's good,isn't?
Use 0033 for pmt vlaue in biss.conf and you are done.
This problem happen because you started mgcamd and apprently,you also have softcam.key file in mgcamd folder.

Now you have two options : you can start mgcamd using the remote control by going into plugins and start mgcamd,this will keep it running without telnet window.

Or
You can enter the complete key in biss.conf.
After this,you exit and save the key,biss should be working.

[oregon]

Kebien

Have done this and it seems to be working fine, thanks for all your help.

Does the PMT PID change for different channels? Or is it always the same?

[kebien]

It changes.
That's the whole idea

many biss channels share many properties,in order to use as many keys as possible without overlapping (having two channels with the same specs),there was a need to use channel specs that won;t be the same,as to diferentiate one from the other for key selection.
You want to find channels with different PMT value and SID,otherwise only one of those channels will open : the first in the key list.

[Al Bundy]

I work in the sports backhaul business and am trying to get the az box to work with biss. In the plugin menu i have the word biss and can open it and put in the info. I have tried the following and have got nowhere.

My PCR PID, PMT PID, and Service ID never change they are 8190, 32, and 1 respectively. My biss key is usually XXXXXXXXXXXX. I put in 0001 for the service id, 3290 for the pmt, pcr group, and put the key in its place knowing that it is 4 digits short i tried 4 f's and 4 0's in front and back and still have a scrambled picture. I dont know what i am doing wrong. Do I need to convert the pcr, pmt and service id to hex first???

Or how about I have no idea and can someone please steer me in the right direction... Thanks

Al Bundy

[kebien]

For service id you enter 0001
For pmt you enter 0020 (32 in hex is = 20)
Now the key ,given it is the correct one,lacks the checksums
many receivers accept this keys as is,and some need the checksums

Your checksums are
xxxxxxDExxxxxx5A

Nice to see you,al bundy
Wonder if possible to know which feeds are this from.

Let me add that if you are going to uplink 2 or more feeds at the same time using different encryption keys,the suggestion is to use different PMT pid for each feed or service id,in this way you will be able to get them all with the biss plugin.
The limitation is already noted : for channels using the same service id and PMT pid,the only one that will open is the first in the list,the plugin will use the same key for every identical channel.
This also assume you will use a different key for each feed.
If not,you can use this same key for every feed and same specs,all will open.

[Al Bundy]

Thanks for the info... I will try this today... For future reference if you could tell me how you got the checksum for the biss word (the extra 4 numbers) in case i do a feed with a different biss word. Also from what you explained the pcr pid in my case 8190 in not something i need to enter i saw some where that i had to enter the last 2 digits of it and the pmt pid which is mabye why i was confused... Thank you for your answers and time...

Al Bundy

For service id you enter 0001
For pmt you enter 0020 (32 in hex is = 20)
Now the key ,given it is the correct one,lacks the checksums
many receivers accept this keys as is,and some need the checksums

Your checksums are
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Nice to see you,al bundy
Wonder if possible to know which feeds are this from.

Let me add that if you are going to uplink 2 or more feeds at the same time using different encryption keys,the suggestion is to use different PMT pid for each feed or service id,in this way you will be able to get them all with the biss plugin.
The limitation is already noted : for channels using the same service id and PMT pid,the only one that will open is the first in the list,the plugin will use the same key for every identical channel.
This also assume you will use a different key for each feed.
If not,you can use this same key for every feed and same specs,all will open.

[Al Bundy]

popped the info in and it works like a charm, now i just gotta find out how to get the chucksum and ill be good. Thanks for the help...

[kebien]

I explained about checksums in pm.

The PCR pid is not needed for this plugin.
You can open biss channels using other emus,like mgcamd,multicas,and so on.
And each of them could require a slightly different layout,some require video pid and also CA id and provider id and some need the correct name written as it appears in the SDT,just to mention some.

Biss channels are a problem,since many have similar specs and become a problem for the emu to be able to select a key for an specific channel.

[Norbi]

H, I have installed the BISS plugin, but can not see biss.conf file inside. There is a BISS file however, but without the extension .conf So what did I do wrong?

[kebien]

Insert any key with the remote,save it,and the conf file will be created.

[Superfin]

Anything worth watching on the BISS? I have 4.8, 13, 19 and 28.

[oregon]

Has anyone discovered an easier way to find the PMT PID of BISS channels?

I really need it for the 7E channels 11407v, etc, for Australian Open tennis feeds.

Tried running mgamd and emu_module with telnet logging but only the cw keys came up.

Can anyone please help!

[kebien]

some emulators debug information can give you the PMT value.
Try starting mgcamd in telnet and see what it says when you change from any channel to this one you want to know PMT from.
I know rqcamd does.

But should be easy to ask someone with a dreambox to tell you,is in the service information screen.
Go to the dreambox section and ask them.
I could tell you if you are able to record a minute of this feed with your azbox ,extract the *.ts file and post it somewhere so i can grab it.

[oregon]

some emulators debug information can give you the PMT value.
Try starting mgcamd in telnet and see what it says when you change from any channel to this one you want to know PMT from.
I know rqcamd does.

But should be easy to ask someone with a dreambox to tell you,is in the service information screen.
Go to the dreambox section and ask them.
I could tell you if you are able to record a minute of this feed with your azbox ,extract the *.ts file and post it somewhere so i can grab it.

Thanks Kebien

I have not heard of rqcamd. Can that be run on the azbox?

I could record the feed and post. Actually there are 3 transponders (7 feeds i think). So, I am guessing the PMT would be different on each channel? How would I get the .ts file onto my pc? Would ftp work? If you could let me know which folder to look in, I could try it.

Sorry for the noob questions, I am a novice!

Many thanks.

[oregon]

Ive installed rqcamd and run it from telnet. But still no value in PMT :( It just says PMT PID: 0000

Am I doing something wrong?!

[kebien]

I see,remove rqcamd then ,seem it cannot get the data.

Please record a minute of this channels with your azbox,then upload it somewhere for me to analize them.(2shared.com or other)
I'll post right here the results