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    How to use the BISS plugin? Help

    I have installed the BISS plugin but am stuck on the key entry page where it asks for PMT PID. I am trying to open Fox Sports on 8w 11106

    What figure do I need to enter here? I cant seem to find it anywhere.

    Also, I have a biss keys bin file. Which folder do I need to upload that to?

    Many thanks

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    Biss keys go into biss.conf, in /EMU/OpenXCAS/BISS
    Is not a bin file,is text

    PMT of the feed is not shown in azbox menus,have to find other means to get it.


    You can try to use other azbox emu,like multicas,and start it by telnet using

    /EMU/OpenXCAS/MultiCAS/emu_module &

    In the telnet console log,you will see the value of the PMT pid,that is the one you have to use.

    Also can use CCcam starting by telnet.
    or mgcamd

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebien View Post
    Biss keys go into biss.conf, in /EMU/OpenXCAS/BISS
    Is not a bin file,is text

    PMT of the feed is not shown in azbox menus,have to find other means to get it.


    You can try to use other azbox emu,like multicas,and start it by telnet using

    /EMU/OpenXCAS/MultiCAS/emu_module &

    In the telnet console log,you will see the value of the PMT pid,that is the one you have to use.

    Also can use CCcam starting by telnet.
    or mgcamd
    Kebien - Thanks for that. But, the BISS folder is not in the OpenXCAS folder. It is in EMU folder, alongside OpenXCAS - thats where it went after I installed from the plugin menu. Has it gone to the wrong location?

    Ive checked biss.conf and the key is in there but Fox on 8w does not open. There is a series of zeros in the line, maybe thats where the problem lies?

    Thanks for your help.
    Last edited by oregon; 06-08-2009 at 05:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebien View Post

    Also can use CCcam starting by telnet.
    or mgcamd
    Hello kebien

    Emulator MGcamd open only two of these channels encoded BISS

    F 00031FFB 00 A02123E43546148F NTV SPOR 42E
    F 00031FFB 01 A02123E43546148F

    F 00071FF3 00 B8A33E991F80BC5B NBA TV(42°E)
    F 00071FF3 01 B8A33E991F80BC5B

    These channels over the updated file SoftCam.key I have do not work After all these keys are updated activists

    F 000C1FFF 00 0000000000000100 TRT 3 42E
    F 000C1FFF 01 0000000000000100
    F 00111FFF 00 260839671204384E RTR SPORT 90E
    F 00111FFF 01 260839671204384E
    F 00011FFF 00 A02123E43546148F NTV 42E
    F 00011FFF 01 A02123E43546148F
    F 00021FFF 00 A000010009200800 Rossiya 2 90E
    F 00021FFF 01 A000010009200800
    F 00031FFF 00 1111113311111133 IRIB TV 3 62E
    F 00031FFF 01 1111113311111133
    F 00231FFF 00 1234569C654321C9 IDMAN TV 42E
    F 00231FFF 01 1234569C654321C9
    F 03911FFF 00 1AF36B787E4C23ED Fantasy channel 9.0°E
    F 03911FFF 01 1AF36B787E4C23ED
    F 00041FFF 00 107220A215050721 TV Kyiv 4W
    F 00041FFF 01 107220A215050721
    F 00641FF0 00 ABCD007843210064 ERI TV2 30E
    F 00641FF0 01 ABCD007843210064
    F 00671FFF 00 DBA54500FDE36200 Rustavi 2 42E
    F 00671FFF 01 DBA54500FDE36200
    F 12701FFF 00 1234569C789C3347 CH 33 SPORT 7W
    F 12701FFF 01 1234569C789C3347
    F 177A1FFF 00 123CD826AB982568 Channel 1 Earth (53°E)
    F 177A1FFF 01 123CD826AB982568
    F 177B1FFF 00 123CD826AB982568 Channel 2 Earth (53°E)
    F 177B1FFF 01 123CD826AB982568
    F 17DE1FFF 00 19090628117660E7 TET 5E
    F 17DE1FFF 01 19090628117660E7
    F 1A181FFF 00 1006102611071129 Pershy Natsionalny 5E
    F 1A181FFF 01 1006102611071129
    F 37791FFF 00 ABCDEF67ABCDEF67 TV B92 12W
    F 37791FFF 01 ABCDEF67ABCDEF67
    F 06BD1FFF 00 EB8CD24995A174AA ESPN Classic 9E
    F 06BD1FFF 01 EB8CD24995A174AA
    F 06C21FFF 00 EB8CD24995A174AA NASN ****** 9E
    F 06C21FFF 01 EB8CD24995A174AA

    What consumed to do to solve this problem if MGcamd ?

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    Actually i have a similar question, where do i FTP the BIN keys that Glenn_911 posted on "Azbox HD files section".

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    All depend on the emu you are using
    All emu goes into /EMU/OpenXCAS
    you find the emu folder the key file belongs to,and paste it there.

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    If you go to plugins > BISS you will see which keys are into the biss.conf file.
    If no keys are listed,you need to move the biss.conf file into /EMU/OpenXCAS/BISS

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebien View Post
    If you go to plugins > BISS you will see which keys are into the biss.conf file.
    If no keys are listed,you need to move the biss.conf file into /EMU/OpenXCAS/BISS
    Kebien, Ive gone into the BISS menu and the keys are in there, but still blank screen. Can you get Fox Sports to open?

    Thanks

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    Keys have to be modified in relation to some data from your box...

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    Which data? I know I need to enter a PMT PID but I cannot find that anywhere. Can you please help?

    Thanks

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    Must go out now. This is for Samsung VIA CI 9500 DSR, by Cruiser. Will translate later.

    Upisivanje Biss i CW kljuceva u DSR Studio

    a upisuje se u Biss & Static dw.Za primer cemo uzeti *** VIEW HOT da radi na drugih 16(12) znamenki,posto sa prvih 16(12) nije otvorio kanal.

    Na *** VIEW HOT kanalu
    Pritisnes 2 puta crvenu i tipku i vidis informacije
    Hotbird 12360 27500 3/4 H
    VID:0FE7 AID:0FE8 PCR:0FE9 SID:36B7 PMT:0197

    1.Frekvenciju 12360 pretvoris u HEX a to je 3048 i to
    ti je prvi ident.
    2.Poslednje dve znamenke od SID i PMT B797 i to je
    drugi ident
    3.key 123456789OABCDEFFEDCBA0987654321

    4+4+12
    3048B797FEDCBA876543

    U DSR Studio treba da bude ovako:
    3048
    B797
    FEDCBA876543
    Hope it helps. I haven't yet done it, btw...

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    Didi you follow some of the advices?
    It surely works,but you have to give it a try.

    Install multicas or mgcamd,then start manually in telnet,there you will have all the information you need to add the biss keys to biss plugin

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebien View Post
    Didi you follow some of the advices?
    It surely works,but you have to give it a try.

    Install multicas or mgcamd,then start manually in telnet,there you will have all the information you need to add the biss keys to biss plugin
    I have mgcamd installed and working. I haven;t used telnet yet.
    Is there a particular telnet program that is best t to use?

    What do I need to do once i am in telnet?

    Thanks

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    putty still a nice telnet program

    When you connect to the azbox using root/azbox as login and pass,you must first stop mgcam.
    Type ps
    then a list of processes will be listed,you fin the very first instance of mgcamd,check the very first number at the left,then you type
    kill (pid number) i.e. kill 870
    The you type ps again,to make sure mgcamd is not listed anymore

    Then you type
    mgcam &
    Or
    /EMU/OpenXCAS/mgcamd/mgcamd & ( this assuming mgcamd binary is in this folder)
    and will start logging in the telnet window,just tune to that channel you want the information from,and look for PMT value and also the SID value,this two you will need

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    Thanks Kebien. I will have a go at this tomorrow when I get back home!

    I will let you know how I get on...

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    Icon3 Can't get the data necessary from your AZbox HD? I beg to differ!!!

    A way [internally, in your AZbox HD] to get all the necessary details from your AZbox HD, to mess with the BISS key.bin file, as indicated above...

    As we have seen from the previous posts, it is necessary to create your own BISS encryption working key, because not all receivers find the same transponder/channel in the same way/with the same data...

    So, one must put in the specific details for each BISS encrypted channel, according to how your own receiver finds those BISS encrypted channels - and those details [transponder frequency etc.] differ from receiver to receiver.

    Hence one must note these details from your own receiver, and not from Lyngsat or some such website, giving the transponder approximate, general details of such channels. Here is how to do it in AZbox HD:

    1) Find a channel encrypted in BISS CAS [system of encryption];

    2) Press OK to get the list of channels and -> note the following:

    -tuner A
    -satellite position the transponder/channel is on
    -the frequency of the transponder etc. and amongst other things
    -SID, V-PID and A-PID

    ...as they are moving from right to left, at the bottom of the page...

    3) Additionally [even though it might not be necessary at all]: go to Settings -> TV Channel -> right arrow -> Tuner A. DVB-S -> OK -> Advanced Scan -> OK -> you will find your AZbox HD will get you to that satellite position -> then go lower to the TP Frequency -> find the frequency of the transponder you previously noted down -> press OK -> go to PID Edit -> you will find ALL THE CHANNELS on that transponder and the following details for all of them: PCR, Video, Video Type, Audio and Audio Type.

    As I said, just note the data for the channel encrypted in BISS CAS.

    Now, I haven't done it yet but it seems reasonable that it should be possible to do it from the data one collects in this fashion...

    I presume you can do this with your AZbox Editor, too [by telesat]...

    Now, who's gonna be a brave soul to actually bother to try this and report back the results...?!?


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    Just chacked and it seems it ought to be possible to get all those details from the telesat's editor, too...

    to get SIِِD and 2 last byte of PMT and PCR;
    Example: FOX tv Serbia SID:377D PMT:A4 PCR:A5
    So, download your list from your AZbox HD, then find a channel and have a look in the Satellite position you need -> find a channel - see the details and work from there...

    Good luck!

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    Wow, thanks Goran!

    I cant wait to get back tomorrow and try this out

    Kind regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebien View Post
    putty still a nice telnet program

    When you connect to the azbox using root/azbox as login and pass,you must first stop mgcam.
    Type ps
    then a list of processes will be listed,you fin the very first instance of mgcamd,check the very first number at the left,then you type
    kill (pid number) i.e. kill 870
    The you type ps again,to make sure mgcamd is not listed anymore

    Then you type
    mgcam &
    Or
    /EMU/OpenXCAS/mgcamd/mgcamd & ( this assuming mgcamd binary is in this folder)
    and will start logging in the telnet window,just tune to that channel you want the information from,and look for PMT value and also the SID value,this two you will need
    Kebien

    I just tried what you suggested, and the strangest thing happened, Fox sports on 8w suddenly cleared but I hadn't even made any changes to the BISS key menu! Maybe its FTA at the moment?

    Anyway, this is the output from the telnet when I tuned to fox sports on 11604:

    [mg0] stoping camd..
    [mg0] service 6F index 0 pmt pid 0 (1)
    ECM: CaID: 0x2600 -> CaPID: 0x1FFF ProvID: 000000
    Fixed key 00 found, pid 1FFF sid 6F id 6F1FFF
    Fixed key 01 found, pid 1FFF sid 6F id 6F1FFF
    [mg0] Sat Jan 1 00:38:40 2000
    ===== BISS ECM on CaID 0x2600, pid 0x1fff ======
    prov: 000000
    cw0:0 01 03 A1 A5 02 B0 78 2A
    cw1:0 01 03 A1 A5 02 B0 78 2A
    [mg0] stopped


    Can you make any sense of that? I cant seem to see a value in PMT PID?

    Thanks

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    I have just gone into the BISS plugin menu and there is now a value of 0033 in the PMT PID.

    How did that get in there? I cant see 0033 in the telnet output.

    The channel only seems to clear if I have the telnet logging command running....
    Last edited by oregon; 10-08-2009 at 09:46 PM.

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