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    my review for elite

    Hi
    it is now 1 month i got Azbox hd elite receiver.from its features i like this receiver.i like the idea to have youtube,browser,the ability to play mkv files to my tv through network etc.
    Well here is my small review.its not complete but i want to give my msg to azbox developers.maybe i am caustic but this is the way to get things done.i am sure that a lot of azbox owners will agree with me
    Pros:
    Great picture ( only stb i saw with 1080p)
    Stable firmware ,updated frequently
    Great chipset for handling multimedia
    Great ideas like youtube,rss reader,web browser

    Cons:
    CCCam is not working ( even incubus released version 0.55 for sigma chipset and its freezing every minute even on local network,not to mention wan.Newer incubus dont support sigma chipset )
    Mbox not stable ( no new mbox version for sigma chipset )
    Always fail to install plugins from my usb stick

    Ideas for improvement:
    Built in panel where we can download emus,plugins,maybe skins.( like other receivers e.g dreambox,ipbox)
    Ability to download torrents from rcu

    Thats all i have to write now.i didnt want to be boring.i just want to give a msg to anyone who read and is involved in azbox hd development
    C/s is selling.Azbox maybe released a brilliant receiver ( its really an outstanding machine ) but it will never sell .To sell you must have c/s working and this has to be done the easy way.Why u think dm sells its receivers like a piece of cake? is it because they have great ideas? or because they are qood quality?
    I think not.Its because they have c/s working on every model they release and it can work very easy.
    From my side i tested mbox,incubus and mgcam. only mgcam works stable.But there is a lot of work to be done on mbox and cccam.
    So i dont know what u will do people.Thats my opinion on this receiver.Maybe i am caustic but this is the way market works.i want to promote this receiver to many friends of me who seen it and were impressed but i cannot really tell them to buy cause of above reasons.
    Regards

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    Yes, there is still some problems:king-041: but I am sure they will be solved soon.

    Mbox is about to release a special verson for AZ and I think that mbox will rule for a while now that the rest is slowing down.

    CCcam must fix a new version as well, think it will come.

    This box looks like a winner as soon as those problems are fixed - it has a great tuner and, as You said, it´s a good multimedia reciever.

    Stay tuned for more news :respect-059:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mushroom View Post
    Hi
    it is now 1 month i got Azbox hd elite receiver.from its features i like this receiver.i like the idea to have youtube,browser,the ability to play mkv files to my tv through network etc.
    Well here is my small review.its not complete but i want to give my msg to azbox developers.maybe i am caustic but this is the way to get things done.i am sure that a lot of azbox owners will agree with me
    Pros:
    Great picture ( only stb i saw with 1080p)
    Stable firmware ,updated frequently
    Great chipset for handling multimedia
    Great ideas like youtube,rss reader,web browser

    Cons:
    CCCam is not working ( even incubus released version 0.55 for sigma chipset and its freezing every minute even on local network,not to mention wan.Newer incubus dont support sigma chipset )
    Mbox not stable ( no new mbox version for sigma chipset )
    Always fail to install plugins from my usb stick

    Ideas for improvement:
    Built in panel where we can download emus,plugins,maybe skins.( like other receivers e.g dreambox,ipbox)
    Ability to download torrents from rcu

    Thats all i have to write now.i didnt want to be boring.i just want to give a msg to anyone who read and is involved in azbox hd development
    C/s is selling.Azbox maybe released a brilliant receiver ( its really an outstanding machine ) but it will never sell .To sell you must have c/s working and this has to be done the easy way.Why u think dm sells its receivers like a piece of cake? is it because they have great ideas? or because they are qood quality?
    I think not.Its because they have c/s working on every model they release and it can work very easy.
    From my side i tested mbox,incubus and mgcam. only mgcam works stable.But there is a lot of work to be done on mbox and cccam.
    So i dont know what u will do people.Thats my opinion on this receiver.Maybe i am caustic but this is the way market works.i want to promote this receiver to many friends of me who seen it and were impressed but i cannot really tell them to buy cause of above reasons.
    Regards
    Thanks for the report mate,

    I have to say that your main issues with the unit seem to be CS related, maybe its worth remembering that this does not bear any impact on the ability of the machine.
    CS is made possible by plugins and is not an original feature of the machine, we have been promised stable releases of the cams and just need to be patient.

    Cons:
    CCCam is not working ( even incubus released version 0.55 for sigma chipset and its freezing every minute even on local network,not to mention wan.Newer incubus dont support sigma chipset )
    Mbox not stable ( no new mbox version for sigma chipset )
    Always fail to install plugins from my usb stick

    I have incubusCamd working very well via the LAN, yes it does need to be restarted at some points but not every minute. Maybe you should check your network and configuration.

    I have seen your posts on other boards, and they are also related to when will we get cccam and other cs related posts.

    I think you will just have to wait like the rest of us, and remember that the box is still in BETA stage.

    Yoda

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    Hello,

    Incubus is working properly has CCC*m client for around 30 minutes then you need to restart it! So you have a problem elsewhere either on your server, on your network or in your Incubus configuration.

    For the ability to download plug-ins you already have it!
    Simply use the Red button in the Plug-ins and click on OK on the http site that it propose to install OpenXCAS.

    The in OpenXCAS simply go to the Manual Install menu and select the same http site.

    (in both case the site should be azboxworld.com)

    You are able to download MultiCAS, Mgcam and NewCs that way.

    The USB plug-in installation is also working fine, you need to put the uncompressed file at the root of the USB (not in a folder) insert the USB key and wait that there is no more activity on it (If you insert it and test immediately it won't work, Azbox need the time to detect it) So I would advice you to use a USB Stick that with a led indicator. But be carefull that the emu should be package for this some are not and need to be installed manually.

    The best running combinaison I find so far on the Azbox is:
    mgcamd + newcs

    Mbox is also running fine but has problem to open the Sec* channels, and the release 5 beta 6 is not working at all. So please test version 4 b 23.

    Pr2

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    "Incubus is working properly has CCC*m client for around 30 minutes then you need to restart it!"


    mine works much longer than that. maybe it depends on the response times of the server which of course will vary with load etc.

    I'll be watching west ham today, so i'll see if it will run the whole game without crashing.

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    I am still waiting for Diablo CAM to work, and also dish tuning with Vbox using diseqc 1.2 which I was told is not working yet.


    These seem quite basic things on a receiver that should be working.

    Too much time seems to be spent fixing minor issues.

    Goldwafers seem to be out of stock of the Premium, which is the one that I would get eventually.

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    Diablo CAM only works after hw adjustment.
    4 resistors to replace

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    Quote Originally Posted by dempsey View Post
    Diablo CAM only works after hw adjustment.
    4 resistors to replace

    Can you please provide more information on this ?

    My screwdriver and soldering iron are ready :o16:

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    I totally agree with the comments in the first post about why dreamboxes sell, and indeed have a truly unrealistic price.
    I have owned a Kathrein (HD) for a year, lots of work has gone into developing E2 by enthusiastic armatures and it runs incubus as a client from cccam, BUT it wont work with more than one C line and not as a server.
    I have just paid 3 times what the Kathy cost for an 8000.
    I switched it on, pressed the blue button to automatically download and install cccam, put in one config file and that was all there is to do.
    I have been told that Azbox will run cccam 2.10 as a client soon, while this is good news I suspect it will be much longer before it will work as a server. It remains to be seen if Cccam authors bring out other versions that non dreambox receivers will not connect to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    Can you please provide more information on this ?

    My screwdriver and soldering iron are ready :o16:
    Just this operation may be made only by suppliers receivers. There is a not public, to prevent massive damage to receivers. Your supplier should be able to provide.

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    :9898:

    Ok...

    If it exists then no doubt then someone will spill the beans soon
    Last edited by AJR; 18-04-2009 at 08:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabber View Post
    I totally agree with the comments in the first post about why dreamboxes sell, and indeed have a truly unrealistic price.
    I have owned a Kathrein (HD) for a year, lots of work has gone into developing E2 by enthusiastic armatures and it runs incubus as a client from cccam, BUT it wont work with more than one C line and not as a server.
    I have just paid 3 times what the Kathy cost for an 8000.
    I switched it on, pressed the blue button to automatically download and install cccam, put in one config file and that was all there is to do.
    I have been told that Azbox will run cccam 2.10 as a client soon, while this is good news I suspect it will be much longer before it will work as a server. It remains to be seen if Cccam authors bring out other versions that non dreambox receivers will not connect to.
    hello crabber,
    since you have the kathein ufs910 and the azbox,which receiver has better picture quality in sd and hd.(i have the kathrein as well)

    regards
    uki

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    I also have both and in HD quality is the same, both are excellent. But AzBox can do 1080p on mkv movie playback, so probably better chipset on AzBox? Sigma chipset on AzBox is same as on some BlueRay players from Sony or Samsung.

    On SD quality on Kathrein wins IMHO. But AzBox is working on a new Sigma (chipset) driver that will improve quality also on SD. Firmware is still on beta stage. When you watch avi movies on SD quality is amazing. Also some good SD channels like german Premiere look good. I think there is something with 4:3 and low bitrate feeds where Kathrein applies more filters to improve picture than current AzBox driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinos View Post
    I also have both and in HD quality is the same, both are excellent. But AzBox can do 1080p on mkv movie playback, so probably better chipset on AzBox? Sigma chipset on AzBox is same as on some BlueRay players from Sony or Samsung.

    On SD quality on Kathrein wins IMHO. But AzBox is working on a new Sigma (chipset) driver that will improve quality also on SD. Firmware is still on beta stage. When you watch avi movies on SD quality is amazing. Also some good SD channels like german Premiere look good. I think there is something with 4:3 and low bitrate feeds where Kathrein applies more filters to improve picture than current AzBox driver.
    thanks for the quick reply tinos,the only reason i am hanging on to the kathrein is the excellent picture quality otherwise the receiver is such a headache.once i find a receiver with a good pq as the kathrein,i shall make the kathrein redundant.that is the reason i am seriously thinking of the azbox or maybe i should wait for the azbox to be more stable

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    I already did the switch... Kathrein is in a box right now. Could not handle so many issues with it (green screens for 1 year was enough). Support from manufacturer was a joke... couldn't handle it anymore. When it worked picture quality was amazing but I can get also same amazing quality from AzBox. If you watch movies on AzBox you will be amazed! avis look incredible, even with really low bitrate... check the youtube video on its interface.

    So worst case scenario it is a lot better than Kathrein and super stable on beta stage. And you get same emu support, so not loosing anything there (probably a lot better soon).

    You get dual tuner support and smartcard reader added to nice hardware (256MB RAM + 256MB Flash really nice compared to Kathrein low memory and space).
    Last edited by tinos; 22-04-2009 at 06:56 PM.

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    I read about CS Problems, dont have that, not really

    Mbox 05.0015 is running great, now with S M S support. Only one bad Thing, its no MultiECM anymore, but normaly dont need it.
    I use OScam in last Version, a good Cardreader and all tested Cards running smoothly.
    Also stability from Mbox is excellent.

    So I am happy with my Box, OK RGB is missing, but I can record all Things, Box is running stable.
    So the Rest will coming with one of the next firmwares.
    The big Things are done for me, but my Firend is very angry about second tuner and will give the Box back, also no Radio and some other Things I dont need.

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    Well second tuner support comes on Friday... so maybe it is better to wait.

    You use OScam with USB Phoenix? or does it support internal cardreader?

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    with usb2serial Adapter, no Support internal Reader

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanswurscht View Post
    ..., but my Firend is very angry about second tuner and will give the Box back, also no Radio and some other Things I dont need.
    Second tuner will only be supported in next firmware this friday so your friend just have to wait...
    Radio, Satellite Radio are supported simply press the TV/Radio button on the RCU.
    He perhaps think of Internet Radio this will come in a future release, just give developper the time to develop it. :-)

    I don't understand how people can complaints about things when we repeat everywhere that the current released firmware are all béta and are improving in terms of functionnalities also at each new release...

    I am still more and more suprise by the potential and the features of the Azbox.

    Pr2

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    Hi all,

    I don't understand the anger of some towards this box. Isn't it being sold at the moment as a Beta box?

    The company is honest enough to admit that there are problems and you run the risk that all won't work from the start.

    Rome wasn't built in a day.

    Give it time and you'll have a box that can do more than you need.

    Patience is the key guys.

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