Triple Dragon

[rainforest125]

HI

Just took delivery of one of these anybody any tips or advice.

[sstylianou1976]

The Triple Dragon is a fine receiver mate Linux based with built in spec-trum analyzer to help you find the satellites in orbit. As for support you get key updates usually from cpluscode for the Triple Dragon and images usually come from unofficial sources like TDMAN he posts them out and are quite good to my understanding.

I don't have one myself from what I know it is a proper enthusiast receiver with a lot of potential and the reports are great supposed to be one of the best SD receivers out there and you can use CCCAM with this machine also which is a big plus side as well.

Personally this receiver is very under rated since the picture and sound quality is second to none and is very sad since software support is limited as well.

Hope my little info help mate.

Regards,

sstylianou1976

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You can also use the best EMU for CS so far, Mbox.


Cheers.

[sstylianou1976]

More info on this big beast.

Overview
The Triple-Dragon is a digital home theater system. It contains three tiers by functionality,
and two phases by implementing schedule.
The Triple-Dragon is the first one provides digital video and audio life program into your
home.

Three Tiers The first tier – DBS-3000 CNCIE provides basic functions such as digital
satellite receiver, CI, CA ( Conax )and ethernet software upgrade etc. You can add HDD
up to this receiver as a personal video recorder.
The second tier – DVR-3000 H8D2 provides advanced features, which include PVR, DVD,
Browser, E-Mail, DVD±RW and 6-in-1 CF, interface. This tier requires working with first
tier.
The third tier – DAP-3000 A6P22 provides Dolby AC-3 5.1 channel decoder with amplifier.


Two Phases

The first phase scheduled by August 2004 with most features except the ones in second
phase list below.
The second phase scheduled by end of 2004 to add Browser, E-mail, 6-in-1 CF reader,
games, DVB-MHP and DVD Disc compliant format by DVD writer ,DVD player ,MP3 player ,
VCD player. This phase enhances on software only.

First Tier

General Features 　 　

Digital Satellite, Cable and Terrestrial Receiver

DBS-3000: Digital Satellite Receiver
DBC-3000: Digital Cable Receiver (Not ready)
DBT-3000: Digital Terrestrial Receiver(Not ready)
　
Front-End Control

For Satellite Receiver, Front End Supports Controller for
　 LNB Switches: 0V/12V, 14V/18V, 0/22KHz, DiSEqC1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 2.0
　 Dish Motor: DiSEqC1.2


Digital Stream Format MPEG-2 Compliant, and backward compatible with MPEG-1
　 System: Support various system formats, includes
　 Transport Stream (TS)
Program Stream (PS)
Packetized Elementary Stream (PES)
Elementary Stream (ES)
　 Digital Video: Support Main Profile / Main Level (MP@ML) with
　 720 x 576 x 25 (Width x Height x FramesPerSecond) for PAL system, and
720 x 480 x 29.97 (Width x Height x FramesPerSecond) for NTSC system
　 Digital Audio: Support the followings
　 MPEG-1, MPEG-2 Layer I, II, III (MP3)
AC-3 reformatted

　
Conditional Access

Support one slot Common Interface (DVB-CI, EN50221) and working smoothly with the
following existed systems and CAMs
　 AlphaCrypt
Conax
Cryptoworks
Irdeto I && II
Nagravision
SECA I & II
Viaccess I & II
Support two slots embedded Conditional Access (CA) for
　 Two Conax,


Audio & Video Output

RCA Jack with Composite Video and Stereo Audio
TV SCART and VCR SCART
S-Video
RF Modulator
S/P-DIF optical out for PCM / AC-3 / DTS
　
Communication

10/100Mbps full duplex ethernet interface

USB connector for keyboard, mouse, photo camera, etc.


Storage

Up to 16MB flash ROM
Up to 64MB SDRAM
　
Front Panel

Graphical LC-Display
IR Receiver
Keypads include Power, Menu, Select, Exit, Up, Down, Left and Right


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Hardware Specification 　 　

Chipsets Integrated IBM Pallas series products, includes IBM04500, with
　 PowerPC405 processor
IBM04500 252 MHz/350 MIPS
16K Instruction Cache and 16K Data Cache- Demultiplexer x 3
　 DVB Descrambler x 3
　 MPEG-2 Video and Audio Decoder
　 Display Controller to support 5 planes blending display with Anti-Flicker
　 NTSC and PAL video encoder
　 2-D Graphics with BitBLT, free-size vertical and horizontal Scalar and Blending
　 External Processor Interface (EPI, 32-bits address and 16-bit Data)
　 General Purpose Timers (GPTs)
　 Pulse Width Modulators
　 IDE Interface (ATA-5)
　 USB 1.1 Host Controller
　 Two Smart Card controllers
　 Two I 2 C Interfaces
　 Three UART750 Serial Communication Ports
　 General Purpose Input/Output (GPIO)
　 Serial Controller Port
　 Synchronous Serial Port/Digital Audio Input
　 420-ball EPBGA
***C LAN91C113-NC Ethernet Controller
Philips TDA8004 IC Card Interface
PCM1725U Audio DAC
STV6412ADT Audio Video (AV) Switch & Electronic Volume Control
　
Storage 80MB SDRAM
4MB Flash ROM, or 16MB (8MB x 2)

I/O Interface

AC 90V ~ 260V power input
Tuner signal input with loop-through
Modulator with multi-system output and external signal input for loop-out
RCA, SCART, S-Video and S/PDIF connectors
RJ45 for ethernet interface
Special-defined external bus interface to connect with second tier’s HDD, DVD±RW and
Compact Flash
One slot PCMCIA interface for CI
Two Slots IC Card Interface for CA ( Conax only)
LC-Display
IR Remote Sensor
Keypads
USB 1.1 Host


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Software Specification 　 　

Operating System Debian Linux Open Source which supports Linux Standard API

Basic Receiver Features User friendly installation with and automatically channel search
Support for DiSEqC 1.0 1.1 1.2 2.0
Unlimited channel lists
Unlimited bouquet and favorite lists
Cool booting within 4.5 seconds
Channel switching in less than one second
DVB EPG support
EPG support for non-DVB channels (MTV, CSAT (France), etc.)
Teletext support
Hardware assisted display of pictures (photocd, photo camera, etc.) on TV
Multi language OSD
Support 16:9 / 4:3 video format
　
Descramble Support CI and provide CA system, smartcard information
Support Embedded Conax
Middleware
DVB-MHP

Software Upgrade

Software upgrade through ethernet


　



Second Tier

General Features 　 　

Integrated 6 in 1 Compact Flash Card Reader Support all existed CF Card interface
Supports Electronic Photo Album

Personal Video Recording (PVR)

Built in hard disk, current capacity is 40GB to 120GB
Built in DVD Recorder which supports DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R and CD-
RW
Time shifted recordings
Trick mode replay (fast forward, rewind, slow-motion, instant replay)
Start recordings through: timer, epg, quick start
Recordings are accessible to any PC connected to the same network as receiver
　
CD/VCD/SVCD/PhotoCD/DVD/MP3/DVD-RW Features Playback of CD audio, including CD
Text support
Playback of DVD Video & SVCD
DVD-Video conforming (enables playback in any DVD player)
Kodak Picture-CD and Photo-CD support
Playback of MP3 CDs
Copy recordings from hard disk to DVD
Allows creation of backup copies of Video DVDs & CDs (Audio CDs, etc)
The DVD recorder inside the box is shared through the ethernet that every PC can use it as
if it was built directly into this PC (allows recording to DVD from the PC)


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Hardware Specification 　 　

Power This tier has its own power system

Storage Build-in HDD with IDE interface
Supports all standard hard disks
Build-in DVD-RW
　
Integrated 6 in 1 Compact Flash Card Reader Support all existed CF Card interface


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Software Specification 　 　

PVR Features Digital recording time according to HDD capacity (average 1.8GB/Hour)
Recorded streams file management system
Time-Shifting Recording
Trick mode replay (fast forward, rewind, slow-motion, instant replay)

Internet Application Web browser
E-mail client

DVD-RW Fully DVD-Compliant Disc maker
Share DVD-RW for external PC through ethernet communication
　
CD/VCD/SVCD/PhotoCD/DVD/MP3/DVD-RW Features Playback of CD audio, including CD
Text support
Playback of DVD Video & SVCD
DVD-Video conforming (enables playback in any DVD player)
Kodak Picture-CD and Photo-CD support
Playback of MP3 CDs
Copy recordings from hard disk to DVD
Allows creation of backup copies of Video DVDs & CDs (Audio CDs, etc)
The DVD recorder inside the box is shared through the ethernet that every PC can use it as
if it was built directly into this PC (allows recording to DVD from the PC)

Integrated 6 in 1 Compact Flash Card Reader Support all existed CF Card interface
Supports Electronic Photo Album




Third Tier

General Features 　 　

Dolby Digital (AC-3) Decoder with amplifier Dolby Digital (AC-3) 5.1 Multichannel Decoder
Dolby Digital (AC-3), Dolby Pro Logic, and Stereo Mode
Maximum, Standard, Late Night Dynamic Range Compression Mode
Precision Digital Output Volume and Mute Control
Precision 96KHz/24bit ADC and DAC with Low pass Active Filter
EEPROM Setup Status Memory when AC Power Shut Off
　
Hardware Specification This tier has its own power system

Amplifier Power 80w *2 , 25w * 3

I/O Connectors One Analog and 2 Digital S/PDIF Input (Coaxial 1, Optical 1)
RCA Jack *6

[sstylianou1976]

Guide from Hi-Sat:

What follows will describe in detail and step by step how to load a Triple Dragon with TDMAN 9B and will work for all TD’s no matter how old or new and assumes that your software may be very old or very new in fact your TD can be in any state and you should be able to use these instructions

WHY – because you should be using this version of software – it’s better than all before it in my opinion obviously:

What will you need

1) Triple Dragon DBS-3000CNCIE
2) Connection to your home network (and the internet via your router)
3) TDTool V1.02
4) TDMAN 9B download this to your desktop it’s a RAR file so you will need to use WINRAR to extract the file called tdimage.bin to your desktop

With TDMAN9B you can download settings, Keys and newer software all from this version

So here is what to do
1) Run the TDTool .exe program on your PC
2) If you can’t see the tdimage.bin in the white box - Click “select image path” and set the path to your desktop (usually C:\Do***ents and settings\[owner of the PC’s Name or Your name]\desktop
3) When you have selected this path click on the “Speichern” Button … you should now see the image name in the left hand box
4) Remove any CAMs and CARDs from your TD – remove any USB stick only have the TD connected to your network
5) Remove the Power cable from the TD
6) PRESS the “<” and “return” (centre) buttons together on the front of the TD whilst putting the Power cable back into the rear of the receiver KEEP THOSE BUTTONS PRESSED UNTIL YOU SEE THE “*” (astrix) in the bottom right of the TD display – now release the buttons
7) Press “V” down button tomove the Highlight down to “Erase/Init VAR-PART” press ENTER (centre button) (this will clear your var partition
8 ) Go to network set-up
9) Set RIP (remote IP to that of your PC – LOOK at Triple Dragon Tool it reads “Local IP’s” this number is the IP address of your PC and this number must be in the TD use the enter button and the up and down key to change the RIP address to read the same as the computers IP address (for example if your PC’s Local IP address is “192.168.1.101” then this must be the number in RIP on the TD
10) set the LIP on the TD to read any number in the same family as your PC so in this example your TD would have to have an IP address “192.168.1.XXX” were XXX can be any number between 1 and 255 but I recommend something obsure like 123
11) After changing the IP numbers use the Exit button [top right] and go to SAVE CHANGES option and press Enter(OK)(centre button
12) On triple tool click option and set Edit Triple IP to read the same as the IP you saved for the TD – in this example 192.168.1.123
13) Now on the TD go to Upgrade software
14) If you have done everything correctly to this point the image will now be pulled across from your PC to your TD and you will be asked if you want to “FLASH this Image” – just press Enter, OK button
15) The image will now load to your TD and eventually you will select “English” language (BLUE - don't load settings at this time)
16) (optional) Now I set my preferences which are as follows you can choose your own or copy mine…Menu> system set-up> language selection> I set primary soundtrack to English and same for secondary soundtrack – I now go to OSD settings and choose my preferences here for me this means choosing OSD settings Transarency 10% show background image no I leave the rest as is….In channel list settings I change channel list mode to “2 columns with EPG” and satellite sorting to “by position” I now go back to Video Set-Up I change TV aspect ratio to Automatic – in the unlikely event that you connect your TD to a UHF aerial set the UHF modulator broadcast system to “I” (for UK users) change parental control to suit YOUR preference
17) Choose Menu>system set-up>more system set-up>network configuration>buit-in Network Interface change to DHCP save configuration NOW exit count to 10 seconds and then re-enter sub menu to check that your TD has been allocated an IP address by DHCP this one will be different from the one you elected to use earlier (usually)
18 ) Now go to Main Menu>Extras go to Download settings green button to download catalog then OK over HI-SAT ROTOR settings etc.and Green for Yes
19) Now go to Main Menu> Extras go to third page Software Update OK then yellow button to download latest keys
20) If you have a hard drive go to Menu>systemset-up>more system set-up>Harddisk>installation
21) Now select Format system partition #1 now OK

Well done your box now has the latest image the latest keys and ***** settings – Enjoy

Additional notes:-

HI-SAT settings include Rotor set-up they will change your Longitude and Latitude settings so these must be re-configured

There are many ways to find out your Longitude and Latitude but when you know then do the following

1) press Menu> Installation> Rotor Installation > Longitude now enter your Longitude in Tenths – for example if you Longitude is 3.0 West then you must enter 30 and press the Red hand (underneath the 9 on your remote control) for W
2) now set your Latitude in a similar way

Thanks to Hi-sat for the Triple Dragon Guide

[sstylianou1976]

A test report by Dr Dish TV on the Triple Dragon DBS 3000 a linux based receiver like Dreambox a versatile yet quite big in size however supposed to be a very good receiver all the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbLFjRNRY3g

[rainforest125]

Many thanks for all the replies they are much appreciated.